what type of steel balls

Discussion in 'General Slingshot Discussions' started by onnod, Nov 30, 2012.

  1. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    hey guys,<br>i was reading trough kugel-winnie.de and found different types of the same diameter steelballs. there seem to be hardened and unhardened balls.<br>is there i difference?(besides the price difference of &euro;1,30)<br>thanks in advance<br>onnod
     
  2. meeeee!

    meeeee! New Member

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    im guessing the hardened balls are stronger, harder to deform/scratch but more brittle. i think the unhardened might be a little denser?
     

  3. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    i was thiking the same, so wich one to buy <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_scratch.png" alt="scratch" longdesc="33">
     
  4. slingpit

    slingpit Slingshot addicted

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    <tr><td class="quote">i was thiking the same, so wich one to buy <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_scratch.png" alt="scratch" longdesc="33">
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    <span class="postbody"><br>The hardened can splinter if hit a stone or other hard material.</span>
     
  5. meeeee!

    meeeee! New Member

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    it depends. for target practice the hardened might be better because they wont deform, but the unhardened might work too. for hunting maybe the unhardened because it is not as hard and might be denser.
     
  6. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    hmmm, dilemma
     
  7. zwillie

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    Hi,<br>the hardened steel is like those from ballbearings they doesen`t splinter.<br>But they are exaktly round.<br>I got both and the unhardened are a little bit flat on two sides.
     
  8. Flipper

    Flipper New Member

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    I would go with the unhardened ones. If they deform just use them for plinking, whereas if you get the hard ones and they always break when hitting hard surfaces you won't be able to use what's left.Nope, Zwillie changed my mind. Go with the hard ones. Dang! I wish I could read German, I would buy some!!
     
  9. @Flipper, google chrome (the browser, it's free) excells in situations like this. There is a translate button that pops up in the upper left corner of the browser whenever you go to a page that isn't in your selected native language. You simply select the language you wish to read in and the browser translates it for you. That way you can order things from pages you can't normally understand and take advantage of cheaper prices wherever they may be.
     
  10. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    Thanks zwillie, then i will just go for the cheapest, wich where the hardened i think
     
  11. bushcraft kid

    bushcraft kid New Member

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    I have a family member who works for a manufacturing firm and he got me several thousand 9mm ball bearings that were considered defective because they were several microns of an inch off round. any ways mixed in was a small quantity of tungsten carbide ball bearings, and correct me if i am wrong but i believe tungsten carbide is very hard but brittle, and no matter how hard i tried i couldn't break a single one. Not sure if this helps you, but I cant see how you could ever break a hardend steel ball because of how it is shaped.
     
  12. stej

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    Several thousand 9mm stell balls for free.. it must be a Christmas present <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" longdesc="15"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_santa.png" alt="santa" longdesc="32">
     
  13. mhpr262

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    just buy the cheapest ones, even the unhardened ones will not be deformed noticeably by anything short of shoting them right at a granite wall and even then I have my doubts. And I don'tbelieve the hardened ones will ever splinter. It is very difficult to make even marbles shatter properly.
     
  14. Arturo Borquez

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    I use ball bearings (=hardened) and never seen a scratch (I have many hard basalt rocks here) ... from time to time I use a metal detector from a friend to collect the missing balls ...
     
  15. tokSick

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    There is a difference in weight maybe? Just asking...<br>I buy the cheapest ones and i got no problems with it. I really don' t get why one will shoot a steel ball directly to a wall unless he is an idiot. I think every slingshot shooter knows how it can be dangerous to do that.<br>I am almost sure there is not a big difference between unharened and hardened.
     
  16. Arturo Borquez

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    <tr><td class="quote">There is a difference in weight maybe? Just asking...<br>I buy the cheapest ones and i got no problems with it. I really don' t get why one will shoot a steel ball directly to a wall unless he is an idiot. I think every slingshot shooter knows how it can be dangerous to do that.<br>I am almost sure there is not a big difference between unharened and hardened.</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br>I think for ss are the same unhardened or hardened(=more sophisticated alloys) don't do a difference in weight (maybe mgr) ... other thing is a sintered cermet ball (ceramic-metal) which are noticeable more light, but I guess that are very expensive ...</span>
     
  17. tokSick

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    I noticed a little bit of rust on the surface when my ballzz get wet <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"> .<br>If i find one back outside after 2 day there is more rust on it.
     
  18. I shoot directly into walls and rocks to test the power of my slingshots. But I also train with knives with my friends and am used to dodging those. Neither are practices I would recommend, as tokSick said it does make me at least part idiot <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" longdesc="9">
     
  19. tokSick

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    If you shoot to a wall or rock, you will do it from a certain angle. If you don' t shoot strait to it you never be able to see how much the steel ball is damaged.<br>I had some ricochets( i am a bad, i mean, real bad shooter), if it was less then from 8 or 10 meters i would be a cyclope now. Dodging those little bastards is tricky if you never learned dodging <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" longdesc="15">
     
  20. Arturo Borquez

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    The only problem I had (fortunately any direct ricochet ... at my age with my sight I am unable dodging nothing) is that the ball bearings I use I found them a little slippery, and without a pouch hole you must care the grip and release ...