What makes Theraband?

Discussion in 'General Slingshot Discussions' started by FIAAO, Sep 27, 2012.

  1. FIAAO

    FIAAO Failureisalwaysanoption

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    What makes Theraband Gold so much "better" for slingshooting than all the other rubber materials out there? I would like to compare my local brand with Gold, if someone got data on the topic. Like, weight, thickness, drawweight and so on.<br><br>Thanks in advance<br><br>//AB
     
  2. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    I recommend testing the stretch and draw weight. <br><br>Cut a 2cm straight (untapered) strip and tie it to a pole. Then tie a loop on the other side. Measure the relaxed length and the max draw (the point where you feel that further stretching increases the draw very massively, to the point of tearing). <br><br>For Theraband, you will see a factor of about six. A ten centimeter piece can be stretched to sixty cm. If your rubber is less or more stretchy, apply the difference factor to the results of the calculator. So if your rubber type is only stretchable to factor 5, then you need to cut your bands 1,2 times longer. If the calculator says 20 cm, then cut yours 24 cm. <br><br>Next, measure the draw weight. You can easily do that with a fishing scale or any other scale that has a hook for the objects (for luggage and so on). <br><br>Thera Band Gold, 2cm wide, has about 2,6 kg of a draw at full stretch. If yours has more or less, you have your correction factor. <br><br>Example: Your band has a draw weight of only 1,8 kg. <br><br>2,6 divided through 1,8 is 1,44. So you need to multiply the results of the calculator by 1,44 (so you need wider strips). <br><br>Of course this does not mean that your bands will work as good. Many (most) flat rubber bands I tested are a lot slower and/or tear earlier, simply because the quality of the material is less suitable for slingshots.<br>joerg wrote this one time, maybe it helps
     

  3. DaveSteve

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    What makes TB autstanding it's the ability to retract very fast. The slingshot community always' looking for a faster one. There are apperently some pure latex bands out there which are faster than TBG.
     
  4. JoergS

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    Actually, TBG is just a little slower (not much) than the pure natural latex McMaster Carr sells (they ship to the US only). It only makes a difference for lightweight ammo, though. <br><br>Thera Band Black and Blue is as fast as the McMaster Carr bands. <br><br>TBG will fare a lot better against sunlight (compared to the McMaster Carr stuff). Plus its thickness make the bands nicely compact. Strong bands made from TBBlack/Blue will either look untidy (folded lengthwise) or are very time intensive to make (lots of layers). <br><br>I have to say that Thera Band and the McMaster Carr bands are the ONLY bands that play in the premier league. Everything else is miles behind. I tested pretty much every type of rubber there is, and they all pale in comparison.<br><br>If you want the best slingshot bands, Thera Band or McMaster Carr bands are the only choice.<br>
     
  5. FIAAO

    FIAAO Failureisalwaysanoption

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    Onnod: Thanks, Im going to test this as soon as possible!<br><br>DaveSteve: I think I heard somewhere that thinner bands are faster, and Gold is the thickest type, which leaves Gold the slowest. But Gold is still the "best", as you need lots of, for example, red theraband to make a proper bandset for the specific ammo. Am I right, or how wrong am I? <br><br>Jörg: I found a swedish retailer this morning, that sells tb Gold in rolls of 4,5 meters. Im going to by some as soon as possible!<br>
     
  6. CEZ

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    Has anyone tried this stuff? <br><img src="http://nokautimg3.pl/p-6f-3d-6f3df2709ad70863f58cd162eea0463b500x500/tasma-rehabilitacyjna-oppo-band-do-cwiczen-dlugosc-150-cm.jpg" border="0" alt="">
     
  7. slingshot600

    slingshot600 New Member

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    nope.<br>but if you want tu buy thera band, you can go to the physio, as a kind of muscle practice
     
  8. RayRay

    RayRay New Member

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    How do you tie off the round tube theraband like for the home made 120 lb sling-bow. I wast to make a 50 lb string. <br>it appears in the video that the loops where they attach to the bow and the "D" loop are tied with a red string of some sort...?<br>Is there information of some sort that I am missing? like Dacron bow string for loops or?<br>Thanks for your help, Ray
     
  9. Flippinout

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    Jorg is correct about latex being slightly faster, however McMaster is far from being the most reliable source for pure latex. At McMaster, the materials are warehoused in large and hot buildings. If you purchase from them during the summer, there is a good chance the latex will be discolored from heat.<br><br>McMaster purchases directly from Hygenic Corporation, the manufacturer.<br><br>Simple Shot Shooting Sports also purchase directly from the manufacturer and keep the latex stored in cool, dark, and airtight containers until it is ready to ship. And they ship worldwide. The price is also lower per square foot than McMaster.<a href="http://www.simple-shot.com/collections/bulk-elastics/products/bulk-band-material" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Simple Shot Shooting Sports</a>
     
  10. JoergS

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    Great to hear Simple Shot now carries the stuff too! In this case forget McMaster. Simple Shot is the way better supplier.
     
  11. bushcraft kid

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    What do you guys know about linatex? I know simple shot sells it, I just dont know much else about it.<br><br>P.S. great to see you hear Flippinout!
     
  12. pelleteer

    pelleteer Middle Aged Delinquent

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    Linatex is thick and very durable, but it's sort of slow for the draw weight. It's decent stuff, just not as fast as TB or natural latex bands of a similar draw weight.
     
  13. bushcraft kid

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    Thanks, it almost sounds like it is similar to gum rubber?
     
  14. Thistle

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    This is good to know. I live here, and I didn't know this. [​IMG]
     
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  16. zurk021414

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    Dark and cool for storage of latex. Theraband the same? Is there a fluid that one could store the latex or Theraband in that would retard the loss of plasticizer from the compound? And would that work to re-introduce plasticizer to a dried out batch of latex or Theraband? The reason I ask is that I'm a much better inorganic chem guy than organic.
     
  17. ruthiexxxx

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    I liked its performance but found it tended to snap far too quickly in my opinion. I seem to recall reading that I was not the only one to experience this.

    As a fan of tubes I'm still mourning the news from Joerg that, from our perspective at least, the performance of Theratube Black and Silver has been debased. Does anyone know if the Blue is still of the quality it was before?

    And, before we are hit by the real heat of a Spanish summer (!), would the bottom of the fridge be a suitable place to preserve my stock of the old quality Theratube? It's become precious now !
     
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  18. buckshot500

    buckshot500 Hoonigan Jeeper

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    I like the Gold's gym green (heavy)rubber I got from Walmart for $7.77

    It has been working well for me.

    While I haven't tried TBG yet, Gold's is not so expensive and I bought it locally without having to wait for delivery.

    If I ever decide to go with something I find to be better, I won't feel too bad about re-banding my shooters.
     
  19. zurk021414

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    ruthiexxx asks:

    It should, but I'd seal it up in individual sized sealer or zip loc bags with the top folded over and taped. 2 reasons, less oxygen would mean less oxidation, I would think; and I wouldn't want outgassing to affect my food.

    I'm still wondering about a suitable storage fluid. Joerg was saying something in one of the threads about the zombie movie story that there was a time limit for all of the slingshot flexible materials. If it's a decade or more, going to be tough to test a fluid. I guess a guy could try a shotgun approach and choose 3 likely candidates and seal 'em up in case of a civilization discontinuity.
     
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  20. Ghosth

    Ghosth Over the hill but still swinging!

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    Gold's Gym Green working well here as well. I do also use a lot of tubes, mostly Thera Tube Green and Red. And some not name brand, or not distinguishable. The best of which was 6' of tubing that is 10cm outside to outside, so a fair amount bigger and harder to draw than TB Green.
    I doubt I'd ever go as high as blue or silver, the green is more than I want to draw some days.