What is your guess...

Discussion in 'General Slingshot Discussions' started by JoergS, Sep 23, 2011.

  1. JoergS

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    I am working on another "natural" version from one of my designs. I finished the raw cutting job this morning, lots of work ahead still - but you can see the slingshot emerging.<br><br>So what do you think:<br><br>a) What is this slingshot made from? Hint: It once was a natural fork, and NOT catwood...<br>b) What is the name of the design? Hint: NOT the palm cannon.<br><br><br><div style="margin:auto;text-align:center;width:100%"><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bP-AtSgWD1w/TnwbGeRFhKI/AAAAAAAAA6A/7MPzJzXCCOY/s1600/NatHH.JPG" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bP-AtSgWD1w/TnwbGeRFhKI/AAAAAAAAA6A/7MPzJzXCCOY/s320/NatHH.JPG" border="0" alt=""></a></div>
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  2. Cuthbert Allgood

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    Hand Howitzer !!looks awesome. i love the idea of making board cut designs out of naturals.
     

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    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>bj000 wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">Hand Howitzer ! dogwood!looks awesome. i love the idea of making board cut designs out of naturals.</td></tr>
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  4. DukaThe

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    Hand Howitzer and dogwood. I agree with bj there <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="2"> But I just have one question: How do you draw a desgin on a natural and how do you cut it? Please tell me couse I have one big fork and I want to do something like that <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="2">
     
  5. JoergS

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    Oh, that is easy. First you convert the fork into a board, by sawing (slicing) off the front and the back part.<br><br>Then you can transfer the shape like normal. <br><br>You can also see the wood grain when you do that, so that you can select the best suitable part (fiber direction). Not every big fork is usable for such a project, and you have to pick the right design after you have carefully inspected the wood fibre structure.<br><br>NOTE: Don't dry the big forks for a lengthy time. They tend to develop long, deep cracks because tension in the wood builds up. Saw the rough shape out while the big fork is fresh. Then you can let it dry (either over time or in the microwave). It won't crack.
     
  6. DukaThe

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    Thanks Joerg. But how do you cut to make a board? With which saw? And how will I know whats a good grain and wood to make?
     
  7. JoergS

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    You need dense wood, like dogwood, oak, hazelnut or beech. I use a recip power saw for slicing the front/back part off, but a hand saw works just the same (but is more laborious). <br><br>You clamp the piece in the vise with one of the fork arms, then you saw off the slice from the other arm and handle. then you change the fork arm and finish the job. <br><br>Then, you clean off the saw dust and apply some water to the fresh surface. The fibre direction is usually very visible then. Make sure that the "meeting point" is in the "throat" of the desired slingshot shape.
     
  8. gamekeeper john

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    i have something very simalar to this aswell lol, i had it from the shared section from the other forum, i will post a picture if you want, its got the parmswell like i did on my 6 circles - john
     
  9. Antraxx

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    The question is, do you even need a fork in the first place?<br>i know, you have a lot less waste and you can use a younger tree, but i think if the wood is strong enough you could have also started with a standard log and saw it flat.<br><br>The grain might give this away later of course, but if you take a log of a very good looking one, like olivewood, i don´t think it´s a disadvantage <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="2">
     
  10. JoergS

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    Antraxx, you can go much thinner when you use a natural fork, because of the fiber direction. Boardcuts from planks must be very thick and solid. For delicate designs like the Howitzer, planks are a no-no. <br><br>Also, I simply like the idea of carving this from a natural fork.
     
  11. Ryan Wigglesworth

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    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>JoergS wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">Antraxx, you can go much thinner when you use a natural fork, because of the fiber direction. Boardcuts from planks must be very thick and solid. For delicate designs like the Howitzer, planks are a no-no. <br><br>Also, I simply like the idea of carving this from a natural fork.</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>The fork of the tree is naturally very strong, and perfect in all ways ^^</span>
     
  12. Antraxx

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    of course it´s strong, stronger then a cut-out from a board or plank, but we are talking about a few kilogramms per forkarm and we are talking about strong solid wood in general.<br>so it might be an advantage in durability, but i don´t think it is a MUST.<br><br>if those arms are not ultra thin i don´t think they will break, the fact that you bought some olivewood boards to make some shooters out proves you think so too <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" longdesc="9"><br><br><br>can you do me a favour and post a picture of that dogwood tree if you manage to get the cam with you one day?<br><br>all i have found so far is that they look a little bit liky holly and also have black berrys atm. the leaves are kind of round or egg-shaped.<br><br>i can´t find anything here <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" longdesc="3"><br><br><br>what i have tons of in the wood nearby (and is normally pretty rare) is ginster. the ones with the thorny leaves that look like they are waxed and red berrys.<br>the wood semms very solid to, but it´s a pain in the a... to saw them.<br><br><br>did you also dry that massive fork for your howitzer in the microwave?<br>no roblems with cracks?
     
  13. JoergS

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    A few cracks in the bottom of the handle, of course completely harmless, that is all. Filled them with epoxy.<br><br>In fact I had these lying around for too long, should have sawed them all down when they were fresh. The cracks would not have developed then. I had to throw one away because there was a crack low in a fork arm.<br><br>I will use the olive wood as scales only, there will be a core from either multiplex or steel. I never make boardcuts without any lamination, I don't feel safe otherwise.
     
  14. Cuthbert Allgood

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    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>JoergS wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">A few cracks in the bottom of the handle, of course completely harmless, that is all. Filled them with epoxy.<br><br>In fact I had these lying around for too long, should have sawed them all down when they were fresh. The cracks would not have developed then. I had to throw one away because there was a crack low in a fork arm.<br><br>I will use the olive wood as scales only, there will be a core from either multiplex or steel. I never make boardcuts without any lamination, I don't feel safe otherwise.</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>that is going to be great. I also finished up a big natural for you yesterday to send you for sending me a slingshot for the contest. it has a board cut looking design and its big for your giant hands lol</span>