Thickness of Leather Pouches

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  1. softgoat

    softgoat New Member

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    Just started working on a few home built models. Had some old leather Work Gloves so cut the backs out of them. Found that leather to be too thin and the stuff would tear after less than 100 shots when using Several layers of Theraband black. I think I will go and get some scrap leather off of ebay but want to get an idea of what thickness gives the best performance without flying apart after a few shots.
     
  2. Ryan Wigglesworth

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    <div>You want strong, but durable right? I have heard good things about Hrawk's kangaroo leather, very thin and very durable. But have you considered rubber cementing 2 layers of your leather together? <br><br>It's a fine line between thickness, weight, and durability I find...</div><div class="clear"></div><div class="signature_div">
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>Hmmm, being my native animal I might have to try the old roo skin myself.<br><br>I've tried the garden glove leather (thanks for that Softgoat, I now know it won't last me much longer <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_cry.gif" alt="Crying or Very sad" longdesc="11">) and I have just purchased some scrap from ebay (1.6mm thick) so not sure if that will last me long either.<br><br>Trying to find some decent thickness, like 2mm+, is just sooo hard.<br><br>Where the hell did the schools used to get it from back when we had arts and crafts classes? I searched everywhere for craft leather and NO GOOD!</span>
     
  4. Ryan Wigglesworth

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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>Hmmm, being my native animal I might have to try the old roo skin myself.<br><br>I've tried the garden glove leather (thanks for that Softgoat, I now know it won't last me much longer <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_cry.gif" alt="Crying or Very sad" longdesc="11">) and I have just purchased some scrap from ebay (1.6mm thick) so not sure if that will last me long either.<br><br>Trying to find some decent thickness, like 2mm+, is just sooo hard.<br><br>Where the hell did the schools used to get it from back when we had arts and crafts classes? I searched everywhere for craft leather and NO GOOD!</span>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>Man I got some boot leather that matches your needs <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_biggrin.png" alt="Very Happy" longdesc="1"> you should check out thrift stores for anything , belt leather is about 2mm sometimes, what I want is something very little, less than 1 mm with extra strong durable characteristics <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_biggrin.png" alt="Very Happy" longdesc="1"></span>
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  5. softgoat

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    I have heard good things about Kangaroo leather and Pig leather, I'll have to see if I can find some of that on the cheap. I think there also must be some synthetic materials like Neoprene that may work as well.
     
  6. pelleteer

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    I'm currently using veg. tanned tooling leather from ebay. I have a bunch of 2oz. that I use with lighter bands (which is mostly what I shoot), but also have some 4oz that I could use on stronger bands if I wanted. 2oz. is basically 1/32" (.8mm) thick (about like thin work gloves) and 4oz is about 1/16" (1.5mm) thick. I can't imagine needing to go thicker on veg. tanned leather for any reasonable application. It's very tough stuff. <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_cool.gif" alt="Cool" longdesc="6"><br><br><br><br>edited: For correct leather type. I had "rawhide" on the brain for some reason...<img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" longdesc="14"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7">
     
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    i cut an old leather wallet into scraps <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" longdesc="9"> works perfectly fine so far
     
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    <tr><td class="quote">I'm currently using veg. tanned tooling leather from ebay. I have a bunch of 2oz. that I use with lighter bands (which is mostly what I shoot), but also have some 4oz that I could use on stronger bands if I wanted. 2oz. is basically 1/32" (.8mm) thick (about like thin work gloves) and 4oz is about 1/16" (1.5mm) thick. I can't imagine needing to go thicker on veg. tanned leather for any reasonable application. It's very tough stuff. <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_cool.gif" alt="Cool" longdesc="6"><br><br><br><br>edited: For correct leather type. I had "rawhide" on the brain for some reason...<img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" longdesc="14"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7">
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>I saw that Veg tanned leather on Ebay, but did not have a feel for how to convert ounces to thickness. It sounds like the 4 oz. range will work for heavy bands and some 2 oz for lighter bands. Thanks for the tip. <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="2"></span>
     
  9. tokSick

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    I guys,<br>When i don' t have any leather for the pouch i use a mountain bike inner tube. It is less then 2 mm, it stretch and if you get a hand slap it don' t hurt like hell. Plus, it is not expensive. Here on my bottle opener, medium bands( kettler latex bands ), i use 16 mm marbles( 5.2 grams). The inner tube pouch stretch when i shoot and it add a little bit of power. It is allready my second band set with the same pouch. It works great for me.<br><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ZeiXyugSCqw/T50Cf1fccVI/AAAAAAAAAQk/KMaLQTkL-ws/s640/Tourtel%2520KLB%2520Medium.jpg" border="0" alt=""><br><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-DaIWH8mosfY/T50CYm6OCRI/AAAAAAAAAQY/KYOwBwuDdX8/s640/Inner%2520Tube%2520Pouch.jpg" border="0" alt=""><br>Hope it helps. Greetzzzz
     
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    I forgot to tell, i got a great grip with that kind of pouch. <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" longdesc="15">
     
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    <br>I saw that Veg tanned leather on Ebay, but did not have a feel for how to convert ounces to thickness. It sounds like the 4 oz. range will work for heavy bands and some 2 oz for lighter bands. Thanks for the tip. <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="2">
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>No problem. Here's a good thickness conversion chart: <a href="http://reviews.ebay.com/How-the-Thickness-of-Leather-is-Measured?ugid=10000000000858717" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://reviews.ebay.com/How-the-Thickness-of-Leather-is-Measured?ugid=10000000000858717</a> <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_cool.gif" alt="Cool" longdesc="6"></span>
     
  12. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    If your leather is too thin it is possible to glue two pieces togetter
     
  13. WOW!!!!<br><br>I just scored some 8oz (3mm) leather from a woman on ebay.... (600mm*250mm)<br><br>I won't need ammo with this stuff....<br><br>I'll just roll the leather up and throw that at whatever I'm tryin to shoot i.e. ZOMBIES, that'll kill em.<br><br><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7">
     
  14. cbsmith111

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    That's a neat setup, toksick. Where can I get a bottle opener like the one you used to make that?
     
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    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>§pÒ¸Ón§ wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">WOW!!!!<br><br>I just scored some 8oz (3mm) leather from a woman on ebay.... (600mm*250mm)<br><br>I won't need ammo with this stuff....<br><br>I'll just roll the leather up and throw that at whatever I'm tryin to shoot i.e. ZOMBIES, that'll kill em.<br><br><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7">
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"> The only pouches I've seen that thick were on a couple of Barnett bandsets. They work fine on through-the-fork shooters, but I'd be wary of using them on an OTT slingshot. With the weight of that thickness of leather you could get some nasty handslaps (unless you're really good at flipping, which I'm unfotunately not). <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_pale.gif" alt="pale" longdesc="26"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"></span>
     
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    <tr><td class="quote">That's a neat setup, toksick. Where can I get a bottle opener like the one you used to make that?</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>Don't know where such an opener can be found, but here's a thread on the slingy: <a href="http://theslingshotforum.forumotion.com/t1130-tourtel-bottle-opener?highlight=bottle+opener" class="postlink">http://theslingshotforum.forumotion.com/t1130-tourtel-bottle-opener?highlight=bottle+opener</a></span>
     
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    <tr><td class="quote"> <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7"> The only pouches I've seen that thick were on a couple of Barnett bandsets. They work fine on through-the-fork shooters, but I'd be wary of using them on an OTT slingshot. With the weight of that thickness of leather you could get some nasty handslaps (unless you're really good at flipping, which I'm unfotunately not). <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_pale.gif" alt="pale" longdesc="26"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7">
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>Thanks for the tip.<br><br>I have some old garden gloves for any fork styles that I make but I might use this for the bullpup and any other kind of mechanical (non possible hand slappage) device I make.</span>
     
  18. tokSick

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    <tr><td class="quote">That's a neat setup, toksick. Where can I get a bottle opener like the one you used to make that?</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br>Hello,<br>I got mine free when i bought a pack of Tourtel some years ago. I think it would be ok with a metalic one too.</span>