The law on slingshots in your country.

Discussion in 'General Slingshot Discussions' started by andreas, Sep 15, 2011.

  1. andreas

    andreas New Member

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    Here I want to discuss what the rules on using and having slingshots are in your country. I'm from the Netherlands and not many people know that all types of slingshots are forbidden in the Netherlands. (only using special small slingshots for shooting bait for fishing is tolerated). The dutch weapon law knows 4 levels of weapons. source dutch wikipedia <br><br>Category I. non-firing arms. carrying them is NOT allowed without any exceptions.<br>Examples: ballistic knifes, blackjacks, nunchaku's, brass knuckles, imitations firing arms ánd <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_arrow.gif" alt="Arrow" longdesc="19"> slingshots<br><br>Category II. having and using is only allowed for selected government authorities and a select group of specialized collectors.<br>Examples: automatic fire-arms, pepperspray, tasers<br><br>Category III. possession is allowed with a license, and is regulated with strict rules.<br>Examples: weapons for hunters (hunting itself is also strictly regulated) weapons for sporting shooters and weaponcollectors<br><br>Category IV. Allowed to have at home, but carrying and using in public is forbidden. And are completely not allowed for persons under 18. Examples: épée, swords, small batons, crossbows, paintballguns, harpoon, alarm signal guns, air pressure guns (unless the resemblance to real fire arms is really big, then it's again category I, a imitation)<br><br>For ammo counts the same category as the weapon it belongs to, but that won't be a problem for steel balls and pebbles <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="2"><br>I actually have to admit that slingshots are the ideal weapon for people who want trouble, like hooligans, vandals and anarchists. They are easy in use and making, easy to hide, ammo can be anything and if they are strong enough even deadly. Apparently it is not seen as a sports weapon.
     
  2. andreas

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    As a immediate follow up, I don't think that practicing on enclosed terrain will bring you in trouble. Most people (me included, a short while ago) don't even know that law. Just don't carry it with you in public, and don't practice in open nature.<br>The dutch have a word for that. 'gedogen' which means something like tolerating.<br><br>I don't know anything about slingbows. Are they seen as slingshot or as a crossbow?<br><br>Category 1 means that owning, carrying, making, using and selling is forbidden. But what does that mean for sending it to the Netherlands from outside? Like Jörg would do if he has a Dutch winner.
     

  3. JoergS

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    Andreas, as far as I am concerned, shipping a slingshot to the Netherlands is not a crime in Germany. I'd warn the winner that it is illegal to own a slingshot, but if he decides to go for the "public disobedience" strategy, then I gladly send the slingshot out. <br><br>BTW, in Germany slingshots are unregulated (free for all, even for the underaged), EXCEPT if they have an armbrace or are prepared for an armbrace. Then they are banned, completely illegal.
     
  4. andreas

    andreas New Member

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    Well I can't indeed imagine that sending a slingshot to someone in another country can cause you trouble. It's more that the unaware shooter could be in real trouble. I'm really wondering what the rules are in Belgium, I live closely in Belgium and the rules are usually less strict there. We both speak Dutch so there is only one wiki and that wiki only concerns the Netherlands.<br>btw "public disobedience" as in playing with the rules, or as in beeing vandalistic <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" longdesc="15">
     
  5. JoergS

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    "Public disobedience" as in "I don't care for stupid laws, but live by my own moral codex". It is very popular in the US. Not so common in authority fearing Germany. <br><br>I think in Belgium, slingshots are fine. Just a small remark, I know several Belgians that would disagree that you "both speak Dutch". Ils aiment la langue française. <br><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="2">
     
  6. Muizert

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    To reply on Andreas, Owning a slingshot is illigal in the netherlands even when you would use it on enclosed terrain <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" longdesc="3"> BUT what they dont see they dont know <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_twisted.gif" alt="Twisted Evil" longdesc="13"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="2"> I,m dutch too and live very close to the belgium border and i do know that alot of dutch people are on belgium slingshot club's. In belgium there are severall slingshot club,s They use marbles for ammo and like most of us they make there own slingshots. Since you live close to the border too i can recomment , take a bike and drive to Belgium as i do 2,3 times a week <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_biggrin.png" alt="Very Happy" longdesc="1"><br><br><br><br>Oke we dutch sometimes like to make fun about Belgium's but : They do have good beer ! ,nice forrests and better rules <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" longdesc="15"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="2">
     
  7. Antraxx

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    I´m really happy that they are free in germany, i can live with that armbrace limitation.<br>I´m a little bit worried tho at the moment, because it feels they are hyped a bit.<br><br>if a lot of people own thos theraband ones it´s just a matter of time that someone will get hurt. all those power-impact-compare to legal airrifles-videos on the internet might also come in handy for those who are concerned about slingshots and then might try to make them illegal.<br><br>what i personally dislike is the shooting of lead in free nature, steel is fine, since a ot of barbedwire and horseshoes are rotting in the woods anyway.<br><br>i prefer stones and steel because of that.
     
  8. JoergS

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    Lead isn't that bad, it oxidizes quickly and does not poison nature. There are still many lead musket balls from the 30-year-war, they look as new under the thin grey oxide layer.<br><br>And politicians don't watch youtube videos. They only react to public pressure. And then, when the press is in rage, it does not matter if there are youtube videos or not. <br><br>We have to be enough active shooters to avoid stupid laws. The paintballers did well, they made sure that the planned ban did not go through - simply because they had a strong voice. <br><br>The hush-hush strategy is not my thing anyway.
     
  9. Antraxx

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    You are right about Paintball, thats a good argument.<br>But isn´t that allowed only in special areas or on private ground?
     
  10. JoergS

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    Well, yes, but that isn't a paintball specific law. Paintball guns are air rifles, essentially. And you may only shoot an air gun at a range, or on your own property, as long as the bullet can not leave the perimeter.
     
  11. MotoRick

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    Some people seem to think that banning weapons will stop crime. Criminals will ALWAYS find a way to be violent, whether or not all weapons are banned. What I'm saying is this: "outlaw the violence, not the weapon used to commit the violence." That way the good people are not punished in advance for something they "might" do. <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_biggrin.png" alt="Very Happy" longdesc="1"><br><br>And to address the Topic, I'm not aware of any laws here in America limiting the ownership or sale of slingshots. But again, if you use a slingshot to <br>commit a crime, you will be punished for the crime, not for owning a slingshot. That just makes sense to me.
     
  12. JoergS

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    MotoRick, while I agree with you in general, there are places in the US (like NJ) where slingshots are entirely illegal. Most people don't care, and I am not sure how grim that law is enforced, but bans exist.
     
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    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="center">
    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>JoergS wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">MotoRick, while I agree with you in general, there are places in the US (like NJ) where slingshots are entirely illegal. Most people don't care, and I am not sure how grim that law is enforced, but bans exist.</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>Thanks for the correction. I can't say I'm surprised about New Jersey.</span>
     
  14. charlesgmorgan

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    Slingshots with and without wrist braces are openly sold in many stores in Canada ... which suggests that they are legal to own. Often in Canadian law, what counts as an offensive weapon depends on how it is used ... so hitting someone with a hammer counts as assault with a weapon. So if you shot someone with a slingshot, you could very well be charged ... makes sense. In the British Columbia game regulations, you will find the following:<br><br><br><br>Firearm - includes a device that propels a projectile by means of an explosion, compressed gas or spring and includes a rifle, shotgun, handgun, pellet gun, "BB" gun or spring gun but does not include a bow.<br><br><br><br>There is no explicit mention of slingshots. Since a bow does not count as a firearm, it seems that slingshots would also not count. However, hunting is defined as pursuing game with the intent of capturing or killing it with a firearm "or other weapon". So restrictions on hunting would cover hunting with a slingshot. Hunting regulations vary from province to province.<br><br><br><br>Cheers ...... Charles
     
  15. charlesgmorgan

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    Just an update ... I did find one mention of slingshots in federal regulations. That was in the federal Wildlife Area Regulations:<br><br><br><br><strong><a href="http://theslingshotforum.forumotion.com/" class="postlink">3.</a></strong> (1) Subject to subsection (2), no person shall, in any wildlife area,<br><br>(<i>a</i>) hunt or fish,<br><br>(<i>b</i>) be in possession of any firearm, slingshot, bow and arrow, shot other than non-toxic shot or any instrument that could be used for the purpose of hunting,<br><br><br><br>So if you are going into a federal park in Canada, better not carry a slingshot with you!<br><br><br><br>Cheers ...... Charles
     
  16. John S

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    In Pa they are legal to own, illegal to hunt with.
     
  17. epichawk

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    On wikipedia you can find laws about everything in you country
     
  18. Nebuchadnezzar

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    <tr><td class="quote">On wikipedia you can find laws about everything in you country</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>As with everything on Wikipedia I would be a little wary and not use it as a sole source of information. As a starting point Wikipedia is a great idea. <br><br>I have not found any blanket United States federal laws prohibiting the ownership or use of sling shots. <br><br>A search of Texas law also yields very little. <br><br>It seems that laws regulating the use of sling shots are probably being left to the city/town/county to regulate. If you live in the US you will want to be sure and check the local laws where you are planning to shoot. <br><br>If used safely and responsibly I doubt you will have much trouble with authorities in the U.S.</span>
     
  19. epichawk

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    Yeah. Google is also really good <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="2">
     
  20. 3bears

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    it's a bit of a grey area over here in the UK, there is no legislation as far as I know directly governing slingshots at all, we have some incredibly tight laws on things like knives but nothing on slingshots!<br><br>the grey area stem from our intent system, if the police think that you you are intending to use something as a weapon, you can be picked up for carrying a banana! you hear all kinds of tales where the police have banged someone up for having a screwdriver, or other non offensive tools simply down to the intent clause....<br><br>so it's whatever the police say really- personally I've never had a problem, just last week I had to explain away my Air rifle whilst out target shooting...<br><br><img src="http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc317/urban_paladin/2011-09-02192240.jpg" border="0" alt=""><br><br>when armed response police that turned up were fine and were even more impressed with my slingshot- very much a case of attitude though as when they turned up and found out after 2 second of speaking to me that I wasn't a nutter the tasers got put away <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="2"><br><br>so despite there being nothing directly controlling the use of them, slingshots can be classed as an offensive weapon by the police if needs be in the UK, I dont realy think anything would come of it here though, other than you having the slingshot confiscated. obviously criminal damage/assault would be another matter...<br><br>every brush i've had with the police here in the UK I've come out of with my toys returned, and shaking hands with the officers- unfortunately here in the UK we have become very panicy, paranoid country where we automatically call the emergency services if we see something that is outside the media defined norm, sadly even on a small island like Anglesey <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" longdesc="3">