The History of Hemp/Marijuana

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  1. Ryan Wigglesworth

    Ryan Wigglesworth Senior Member

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    THE REAL REASON CANNABIS HAS BEEN OUTLAWED HAS NOTHING <br> TO DO WITH ITS EFFECTS ON THE MIND AND BODY.<br><br><br>MARIJUANA is DANGEROUS. Pot is NOT harmful to the human body or mind. <br>Marijuana does NOT pose a threat to the general public. Marijuana is <br>very much a danger to the oil companies, alcohol, tobacco industries and<br> a large number of chemical corporations. Various big businesses, with <br>plenty of dollars and influence, have suppressed the truth from the <br>people. <br><br><br>The truth is if marijuana was utilized for its vast array of commercial <br>products, it would create an industrial atomic bomb! Entrepreneurs have <br>not been educated on the product potential of pot. The super rich have <br>conspired to spread misinformation about an extremely versatile plant <br>that, if used properly, would ruin their companies. <br><br>Where did the word 'marijuana' come from? In the mid 1930s, the M-word <br>was created to tarnish the good image and phenomenal history of the hemp<br> plant...as you will read. The facts cited here, with references, are <br>generally verifiable in the Encyclopedia Britannica which was printed on<br> hemp paper for 150 years: <br><br>* All schoolbooks were made from hemp or flax paper until the 1880s; Hemp Paper Reconsidered, Jack Frazier, 1974. <br><br>* It was LEGAL TO PAY TAXES WITH HEMP in America from 1631 until the early 1800s; LA Times, Aug. 12, 1981. <br><br>* REFUSING TO GROW HEMP in America during the 17th and 18th Centuries <br>WAS AGAINST THE LAW! You could be jailed in Virginia for refusing to <br>grow hemp from 1763 to 1769; Hemp in Colonial Virginia, G. M. Herdon. <br><br>* George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and other founding fathers GREW <br>HEMP; Washington and Jefferson Diaries. Jefferson smuggled hemp seeds <br>from China to France then to America. <br><br>* Benjamin Franklin owned one of the first paper mills in America and it<br> processed hemp. Also, the War of 1812 was fought over hemp. Napoleon <br>wanted to cut off Moscow's export to England; Emperor Wears No Clothes, <br>Jack Herer. <br><br>* For thousands of years, 90% of all ships' sails and rope were made <br>from hemp. The word 'canvas' is Dutch for cannabis; Webster's New World <br>Dictionary. <br><br>* 80% of all textiles, fabrics, clothes, linen, drapes, bed sheets, etc.<br> were made from hemp until the 1820s with the introduction of the cotton<br> gin. <br><br>* The first Bibles, maps, charts, Betsy Ross's flag, the first drafts of<br> the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from <br>hemp; U.S. Government Archives. <br><br>* The first crop grown in many states was hemp. 1850 was a peak year for<br> Kentucky producing 40,000 tons. Hemp was the largest cash crop until <br>the 20th Century; State Archives. <br><br>* Oldest known records of hemp farming go back 5000 years in China, <br>although hemp industrialization probably goes back to ancient Egypt. <br><br>* Rembrants, Gainsboroughs, Van Goghs as well as most early canvas paintings were principally painted on hemp linen. <br><br>* In 1916, the U.S. Government predicted that by the 1940s all paper <br>would come from hemp and that no more trees need to be cut down. <br>Government studies report that 1 acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of trees.<br> Plans were in the works to implement such programs; Department of <br>Agriculture <br><br><br>* Quality paints and varnishes were made from hemp seed oil until 1937. <br>58,000 tons of hemp seeds were used in America for paint products in <br>1935; Sherman Williams Paint Co. testimony before Congress against the <br>1937 Marijuana Tax Act. <br><br>* Henry Ford's first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the <br>CAR ITSELF WAS CONTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was <br>photographed among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had <br>hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than <br>steel; Popular Mechanics, 1941. <br><br>* Hemp called 'Billion Dollar Crop.' It was the first time a cash crop <br>had a business potential to exceed a billion dollars; Popular Mechanics,<br> Feb., 1938. <br><br>* Mechanical Engineering Magazine (Feb. 1938) published an article <br>entitled 'The Most Profitable and Desirable Crop that Can be Grown.' It <br>stated that if hemp was cultivated using 20th Century technology, it <br>would be the single largest agricultural crop in the U.S. and the rest <br>of the world. <br><br>The following information comes directly from the United States <br>Department of Agriculture's 1942 14-minute film encouraging and <br>instructing 'patriotic American farmers' to grow 350,000 acres of hemp <br>each year for the war effort: <br><br>'...(When) Grecian temples were new, hemp was already old in the service<br> of mankind. For thousands of years, even then, this plant had been <br>grown for cordage and cloth in China and elsewhere in the East. For <br>centuries prior to about 1850, all the ships that sailed the western <br>seas were rigged with hempen rope and sails. For the sailor, no less <br>than the hangman, hemp was indispensable... <br><br>...Now with Philippine and East Indian sources of hemp in the hands of <br>the Japanese...American hemp must meet the needs of our Army and Navy as<br> well as of our industries... <br><br>...the Navy's rapidly dwindling reserves. When that is gone, American <br>hemp will go on duty again; hemp for mooring ships; hemp for tow lines; <br>hemp for tackle and gear; hemp for countless naval uses both on ship and<br> shore. Just as in the days when Old Ironsides sailed the seas <br>victorious with her hempen shrouds and hempen sails. Hemp for victory!' <br><br>Certified proof from the Library of Congress; found by the research of <br>Jack Herer, refuting claims of other government agencies that the 1942 <br>USDA film 'Hemp for Victory' did not exist. <br><br>Hemp cultivation and production do not harm the environment. The USDA <br>Bulletin #404 concluded that hemp produces 4 times as much pulp with at <br>least 4 to 7 times less pollution. From Popular Mechanics, Feb. 1938: <br><br>'It has a short growing season...It can be grown in any state...The long<br> roots penetrate and break the soil to leave it in perfect condition for<br> the next year's crop. The dense shock of leaves, 8 to 12 feet above the<br> ground, chokes out weeds. <br> ...hemp, this new crop can add immeasurably to American agriculture and industry.' <br><br>In the 1930s, innovations in farm machinery would have caused an <br>industrial revolution when applied to hemp. This single resource could <br>have created millions of new jobs generating thousands of quality <br>products. Hemp, if not made illegal, would have brought America out of <br>the Great Depression. <br><br>William Randolph Hearst (Citizen Kane) and the Hearst Paper <br>Manufacturing Division of Kimberly Clark owned vast acreage of <br>timberlands. The Hearst Company supplied most paper products. Patty <br>Hearst's grandfather, a destroyer of nature for his own personal profit,<br> stood to lose billions because of hemp. <br><br>In 1937, Dupont patented the processes to make plastics from oil and <br>coal. Dupont's Annual Report urged stockholders to invest in its new <br>petrochemical division. Synthetics such as plastics, cellophane, <br>celluloid, methanol, nylon, rayon, Dacron, etc., could now be made from <br>oil. Natural hemp industrialization would have ruined over 80% of <br>Dupont's business. <br><br>THE CONSPIRACY <br><br>Andrew Mellon became Hoover's Secretary of the Treasury and Dupont's <br>primary investor. He appointed his future nephew-in-law, Harry J. <br>Anslinger, to head the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs. <br><br>Secret meetings were held by these financial tycoons. Hemp was declared <br>dangerous and a threat to their billion dollar enterprises. For their <br>dynasties to remain intact, hemp had to go. These men took an obscure <br>Mexican slang word: 'marihuana' and pushed it into the consciousness of <br>America. <br><br>MEDIA MANIPULATION <br><br>A media blitz of 'yellow journalism' raged in the late 1920s and 1930s. <br>Hearst's newspapers ran stories emphasizing the horrors of marihuana. <br>The menace of marihuana made headlines. Readers learned that it was <br>responsible for everything from car accidents to loose morality. <br><br>Films like 'Reefer Madness' (1936), 'Marihuana: Assassin of Youth' <br>(1935) and 'Marihuana: The Devil's Weed' (1936) were propaganda designed<br> by these industrialists to create an enemy. Their purpose was to gain <br>public support so that anti-marihuana laws could be passed. <br><br>Examine the following quotes from 'The Burning Question' aka REEFER MADNESS: <br>a violent narcotic. <br>acts of shocking violence. <br>incurable insanity. <br>soul-destroying effects. <br>under the influence of the drug he killed his entire family with an ax. <br>more vicious, more deadly even than these soul-destroying drugs (heroin, cocaine) is the menace of marihuana! <br><br>Reefer Madness did not end with the usual 'the end.' The film concluded <br>with these words plastered on the screen: TELL YOUR CHILDREN. <br><br>In the 1930s, people were very naive; even to the point of ignorance. <br>The masses were like sheep waiting to be led by the few in power. They <br>did not challenge authority. If the news was in print or on the radio, <br>they believed it had to be true. They told their children and their <br>children grew up to be the parents of the baby-boomers. <br><br>On April 14, 1937, the Prohibitive Marihuana Tax Law or the bill that <br>outlawed hemp was directly brought to the House Ways and Means <br>Committee. This committee is the only one that can introduce a bill to <br>the House floor without it being debated by other committees. The <br>Chairman of the Ways and Means, Robert Doughton, was a Dupont supporter.<br> He insured that the bill would pass Congress. <br><br>Dr. James Woodward, a physician and attorney, testified too late on <br>behalf of the American Medical Association. He told the committee that <br>the reason the AMA had not denounced the Marihuana Tax Law sooner was <br>that the Association had just discovered that marihuana was hemp. <br><br>Few people, at the time, realized that the deadly menace they had been <br>reading about on Hearst's front pages was in fact passive hemp. The AMA <br>understood cannabis to be a MEDICINE found in numerous healing products <br>sold over the last hundred years. <br><br>In September of 1937, hemp became illegal. The most useful crop known <br>became a drug and our planet has been suffering ever since. <br><br>Congress banned hemp because it was said to be the most violence-causing<br> drug known. Anslinger, head of the Drug Commission for 31 years, <br>promoted the idea that marihuana made users act extremely violent. In <br>the 1950s, under the Communist threat of McCarthyism, Anslinger now said<br> the exact opposite. Marijuana will pacify you so much that soldiers <br>would not want to fight. <br><br>Today, our planet is in desperate trouble. Earth is suffocating as large<br> tracts of rain forests disappear. Pollution, poisons and chemicals are <br>killing people. These great problems could be reversed if we <br>industrialized hemp. Natural biomass could provide all of the planet's <br>energy needs that are currently supplied by fossil fuels. We have <br>consumed 80% of our oil and gas reserves. We need a renewable resource. <br>Hemp could be the solution to soaring gas prices. <br><br><br><br>THE WONDER PLANT <br><br>Hemp has a higher quality fiber than wood fiber. Far fewer caustic <br>chemicals are required to make paper from hemp than from trees. Hemp <br>paper does not turn yellow and is very durable. The plant grows quickly <br>to maturity in a season where trees take a lifetime. <br><br>ALL PLASTIC PRODUCTS SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP SEED OIL. Hempen plastics <br>are biodegradable! Over time, they would break down and not harm the <br>environment. Oil-based plastics, the ones we are very familiar with, <br>help ruin nature; they do not break down and will do great harm in the <br>future. The process to produce the vast array of natural (hempen) <br>plastics will not ruin the rivers as Dupont and other petrochemical <br>companies have done. Ecology does not fit in with the plans of the Oil <br>Industry and the political machine. Hemp products are safe and natural. <br><br>MEDICINES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. We should go back to the days when <br>the AMA supported cannabis cures. 'Medical Marijuana' is given out <br>legally to only a handful of people while the rest of us are forced into<br> a system that relies on chemicals. Pot is only healthy for the human <br>body. <br><br>WORLD HUNGER COULD END. A large variety of food products can be <br>generated from hemp. The seeds contain one of the highest sources of <br>protein in nature. ALSO: They have two essential fatty acids that clean <br>your body of cholesterol. These essential fatty acids are not found <br>anywhere else in nature! Consuming pot seeds is the best thing you could<br> do for your body. Eat uncooked hemp seeds. <br><br>CLOTHES SHOULD BE MADE FROM HEMP. Hemp clothing is extremely strong and <br>durable over time. You could hand clothing, made from pot, down to your <br>grandchildren. Today, there are American companies that make hemp <br>clothing; usually 50% hemp. Hemp fabrics should be everywhere. Instead, <br>they are almost underground. Superior hemp products are not allowed to <br>advertise on fascist television. Kentucky, once the top hemp producing <br>state, made it ILLEGAL TO WEAR hemp clothing! Can you imagine being <br>thrown into jail for wearing quality jeans? <br><br>The world is crazy...but that does not mean you have to join the <br>insanity. Get together. Spread the news. Tell people, and that includes <br>your children, the truth. Use hemp products. Eliminate the word <br>'marijuana.' Realize the history that created it. Make it politically <br>incorrect to say or print the M-word. Fight against the propaganda <br>(designed to favor the agenda of the super rich) and the bullshit. Hemp <br>must be utilized in the future. We need a clean energy source to save <br>our planet. INDUSTRIALIZE HEMP! <br><br>The liquor, tobacco and oil companies fund more than a million dollars a<br> day to Partnership for a Drug-Free America and other similar agencies. <br>We have all seen their commercials. Now, their motto is: &lsquo;It's more <br>dangerous than we thought.&rsquo; Lies from the powerful corporations, that <br>began with Hearst, are still alive and well today. <br><br>The brainwashing continues. Now, the commercials say: If you buy a <br>joint, you contribute to murders and gang wars. The latest anti-pot <br>commercials say: If you buy a joint...you are promoting TERRORISM! The <br>new enemy (terrorism) has paved the road to brainwash you any way THEY <br>see fit. <br><br>There is only one enemy; the friendly people you pay your taxes to; the <br>war-makers and nature destroyers. With your funding, they are killing <br>the world right in front of your eyes. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR <br>ARE CAUSED BY TOBACCO. HALF A MILLION DEATHS EACH YEAR ARE CAUSED BY <br>ALCOHOL. NO ONE HAS EVER, EVER DIED FROM SMOKING POT!! In the entire <br>history of the human race, not one death can be attributed to cannabis. <br>Our society has outlawed grass but condones the use of the KILLERS: <br>TOBACCO and ALCOHOL. Hemp should be declassified and placed in DRUG <br>stores to relieve stress. Hardening and constriction of the arteries are<br> bad; but hemp usage actually enlarges the arteries...which is a healthy<br> condition. We have been so conditioned to think that: Smoking is <br>harmful. That is NOT the case for passive pot. <br><br>Ingesting THC, hemp's active agent, has a positive effect; relieving <br>asthma and glaucoma. A joint tends to alleviate the nausea caused by <br>chemotherapy. You are able to eat on hemp. This is a healthy state of <br>being. <br><br>{One personal note: During the pregnancy of my wife, she was having some<br> difficulty gaining weight. We were in the hospital. A nurse called us <br>to one side and said: &lsquo;Off the record, if you smoke pot...you'd get <br>something called the munchies and you&rsquo;ll gain weight.' I swear that is a<br> true story}. <br><br>The stereotype for a pothead is similar to a drunk, bubble-brain. Yet, <br>the truth is one&rsquo;s creative abilities can be enhanced under its <br>influence. The perception of time slightly slows and one can become more<br> sensitive. You can more appreciate all arts; be closer to nature and <br>generally FEEL more under the influence of cannabis. It is, in fact, the<br> exact opposite state of mind and body as the drunken state. You can be <br>more aware with pot. <br><br>The pot plant is an ALIEN plant. There is physical evidence that <br>cannabis is not like any other plant on this planet. One could conclude <br>that it was brought here for the benefit of humanity. Hemp is the ONLY <br>plant where the males appear one way and the females appear very <br>different, physically! No one ever speaks of males and females in regard<br> to the plant kingdom because plants do not show their sexes; except for<br> cannabis. To determine what sex a certain, normal, Earthly plant is: <br>You have to look internally, at its DNA. A male blade of grass <br>(physically) looks exactly like a female blade of grass. The hemp plant <br>has an intense sexuallity. Growers know to kill the males before they <br>fertilize the females. Yes, folks...the most potent pot comes from <br>'horny females.' <br><br>The reason this amazing, very sophisticated, ET plant from the future is<br> illegal has nothing to do with how it physically affects us&hellip;..<br><br>&hellip;POT IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE BILLIONAIRES WANT TO REMAIN BILLIONAIRES!<br><br><br>ps: I think the word &lsquo;DRUGS&rsquo; should not be used as an umbrella-word that<br> covers all chemical agents. Drugs have come to be known as something <br>BAD. Are you aware there are LEGAL drugstores?! Yep, in every city. <br>Unbelievable. Each so-called drug should be considered individually. <br>Cannabis is a medicine and not a drug. We should DARE to speak the TRUTH<br> no matter what the law is.<br><br><a href="http://100777.com/drugs/marijuanaconspiracy" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://100777.com/drugs/marijuanaconspiracy</a>
     
  2. petersonOD

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    The fact that Marijuana is still illegal is mind boggling. Cigarettes kill more people than alcohol, marijuana and all HARD drugs combined. (I don't consider things like mushrooms and marijuana "hard drugs"), In fact, alcohol is much more harmful than marijuana. I find it crazy that anyone of legal age can go to the liquor store and buy LETHAL doses of alcohol....and it is legal. <br><br>Try overdosing on marijuana...It's impossible. <br><br>It is no mystery that lobbyists have kept marijuana illegal for this long. <br><br>And we think we live in "free" countries. <br><br>Sorry if I just regurgitated some stuff from your post, I didn't read all of it because I knew where you were headed with it.
     

  3. Oldschool

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    People don't like the truth <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" longdesc="3"> I think going against the norm is difficult for most people because everyone just wants to fit in and look down at a minority.<br><br>Thumbs up!
     
  4. epichawk

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    People act like marijuana is dangerous..... Its about as dangerous as tying ones shoes. I drink coffee, I believe coffee is more dangerous than marijuana. Its just that, its not dangerous at all.
     
  5. Cuthbert Allgood

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    I feel bad for people that do not understand the benefits of it.<br>I have friends who are legally allowed to consume it due to medical reasons, and without it, they would be pharmaceutical vegetables .
     
  6. pipesmoker

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    the herb is the healing of the nation,a wise man once said....
     
  7. Ryan Wigglesworth

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    Sometimes its good... other times I think it gets used too much, at which point it is just as bad as anything else :s<br><br>But hemp seeds are kick ass all the time <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="2">
     
  8. SkauneJohan

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    It's like you are mind readers, I've just ordered my first bag hemp hearts 8OZ(227g) from manitoba harvest <br><br>and got it 4days ago <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_cheers.png" alt="cheers" longdesc="28"> wanted to try it since I have heard good things about it helping people loose weight<br><br>something really strange/unusual is that I already feel more energetic after only eating a couple of spoons of them at breakfast/lunch every day<br><br><br>also normally in my day off I never get up this early, especially after the long trip I had yesterday too <br><br>maybe I'm just high who knows <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7">
     
  9. Ryan Wigglesworth

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    That is your body using the "proper" balance of omega fatty acids... the oils you get mainstream are horrible gm shit, without proper balance or anything good. Cod liver oil, oregano oil and hemp seed oil are fucking kick ass and you will be doing amazing things for your body to digest them regular. Instead of cooking with some shit oil, use olive oil or coconut oil, they are nice also <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_biggrin.png" alt="Very Happy" longdesc="1">
     
  10. pipesmoker

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    i grow a strain that is called manitoba medecine,developed in manitoba by breeder greens(just for info)<br><br>good things come from Manitoba.... <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_biggrin.png" alt="Very Happy" longdesc="1">
     
  11. horstel-1980

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    @Rayan:<br>Don`t cook with the good oil. The heat will destroy the "healthiness" (double binds) of the fat acids. You better put it on a salad or bread.
     
  12. SkauneJohan

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    offtopic: I do the traditional thing when cooking using the fat that is in the meat(any excess is saved) or sometimes sunflower oil IF I need some extra, my girlfriend cook in the traditional Chinese way mostly using sunflower oil<br><br>gm=genetically modified? that is something I wouldn't touch with full body suit unless they serve it in restaurants without my knowledge
     
  13. Karok01

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    Good post Ryan. I think the scope of this is more than can be really expressed here, but I will say Hemp seed oil can be a fantastic source for some fatty acids.....
     
  14. Ryan Wigglesworth

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    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="center">
    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>horstel-1980 wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">@Rayan:<br>Don`t cook with the good oil. The heat will destroy the "healthiness" (double binds) of the fat acids. You better put it on a salad or bread.</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>Yes... good point, I don't cook with the really good stuff, at least not at high temp... Olive oil instead of canola is much better choice :s<br><br><br>And yes GM= genetically modified, sunflower is great too, I like UDO's oil</span>
     
  15. Splugen

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    Also, if you do want to throw some "healthy oil" in something you cooked in oil, use a different oil to take the abuse of the heat, then throw a little in at the very end off the heat. You keep all your flavor and health benefits that way, and you still get to eat something that was actually cooked. I'm not a huge fan of eating cold oils, if you haven't picked up on that <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="2"><br><br>Also just for the record, even though it's counterproductive and expensive,<br><br>cooked out healthy oil> high temp normal oil i.e. canola oil
     
  16. Abe_Stranger

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    Out here in Colorado, it's all good. One can obtain "butter" for ten bucks a pound, and "oil" for about fifteen a quart. Not that I'd know anything about that... <br><br>Do you think Jorge smokes? J/k
     
  17. Bob Dillman

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    As a former law enforcement officer, and a speaker for Law enforcement against prohibition I can tell you this is the facts in Canada .<br>it takes over 85,000 a year to house an inmate , and the country would save over 500 Billion Dollars a year if the abolished prohibition, and increase Canada's value almost over night, but the politicians on all parties stand to gain millions each if they keep prohibition going. to linbe their pockets. remember the only ones who profit from prohibtion is the ones who want in place.
     
  18. Werdna8

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    I am a member of a 12 step fellowship based upon the steps of AA. I can't tell you exactly which one I am in. The following statements are MY PERSONAL OPINIONS and do not represent the views of my fellowship.<br><br>While hemp and marijuana are the same plant I feel the call to leaglize them are two seprate issues and I will discuss them seprately. Hemp is awsome and like has been stated has many uses. One thing I heard that wasn't stated is that marijuana loses most of its intoxicating effects when it is fertilized. A field of hemp has the ability to neutralise illegal marijuana crops. I forgot how far away and I haven't verfied this information.<br><br>I suport the legalization of marijuana. I will never be able to use it again with out destroying my life regardless of its legal status. I have met people who can just use it from time to time just like I've met people who can have a drink every now and then. Having been drunk and having been high from weed I feel the intoxication levels are about the same. The film reefer madness was full of lies about what marijuana does to a person but there is another plant that was also called loco weed that did cause many of the crazier efects portraied by reefer madness. Some of the lies may have been lack of fact checking.<br><br>Be careful when quoting studies about marijuana. Many of the studies have an agenda for or against and this calls into question the results of these studies. In the US it is hard to obtain permision to do studies with marijuana but easy to be granted permision to create a synthetic to preform the research on. Since a synthetic is based on what is already known about marijuana any new information recived from studying the synthitic is in fact only info about the synthetic.<br><br>Don't be too fast to say marijuana is harmless. Politicalty motivated studies that may or may not have used synthetics don't seem to me to be good places to get information from. Also you have me and for many years I drove to and from work steering with my elbows while I smoked my bowl. Again I know not everyone is like me most of you could enjoy responsiably, but those of us who can't do create a danger. I find it hipocritical of the US government that alcohol is legal while marijuana isn't.<br><br>Finaly I dont think many people realize all the isues in legalizing marijuana. Setting aside the social issues you still have to deal with how to rate the potency like proof in alcohol. You get pulled while driving how can the police test you with a portable test and can the test tell the oficer if you are still under the influence or you had a joint 2 weeks ago.<br><br>A first step is decriminalization this could alow studies on the real plant and development of a workable road test and method of proofing the potency. Finaly legaliztion won't clear up all the issues we have now. The illegal channels for distrobution are well established. Why would a smugler, grower, or dealer agree to pay taxes and stop selling to children when they have already demonstrated a willingness to evade the law and chance jail time. A question for the policeman above your numbers are impressive but do they include members of the distrobution network giving up crime all together or do they represent only the money saved by not prosecuting and jailing users only?
     
  19. pelleteer

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    Outstanding post, Werdna. While I don't use it myself, I'm too am pro-decriminalization, but I also have concerns about several of the issues you covered so eloquently above.
     
  20. Bob Dillman

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    As a speaker for Law enforcement against prohibition, and as a former addictions cousellor. I can tell you this for a fact , and this is supported by several university studys in canada and america as well as all across the world. <br>Cannabis is not dangerous to humans , and cannot cause death under any Normal use or excessive injestion. ( UNLESS YOU CAN COMSUME 1500LBS OF IT IN 20 MINS)<br>THE LEGALITY ISNT THE PROBLEM BECAUSE IT IS UNLAWFUL ( ACCORDING TO BLACKS LAW DICTIONARY) TO HAVE PROHIBITION OF CANNABIS ( MARIJUANA IS A SLANG TERM FOR A DIRTY CIGARETTE)<br><br><br>As far as addictions are concerned in the early 80's the medical standards changed and they included pychological addictions inclusive of physical addictions together . this was a ploy to keep prohibition in full force .<br>(there are two addiction types physical ie , crack and heroine addictions where the addicted , can DIE via withdrawls. or alcohol with DDTs. <br>cannabis although doesnt have these deadly qualities. <br>they have a psychological addcitive qualities. <br>this is not fatal at all. Cannabis has not killed anyone since 2727bc in recorded history.<br><br>This is the basis for prohibition <br>its dangerous to people and especially children.<br><br>this is a defunked idea . and the threat that it is dangerous. has killed millions <br>and as I am also a medical cannabis patient I can tell you this . <br>I have never been healthier . My brain can work and Im not a pot head , nor is any of my fellow collegues who also use for medical purposes , and one of which who has ms ( many do but this woman is very different) <br><br> shes also a speaker for leap. and uses 50 fifty grams a day and she can walk circles around all of us.<br> Im sorry you feel that you are addicted to cannabis <strong><a href="http://theslingshotforum.forumotion.com/u1294" class="postlink"><font color="#000000">Werdna8</font></a>(AND PLEASE DONT GET ME WRONG iM NOT MOCKING YOU OR SAYING USE CANNABIS) AND IF YOU DONT WANT TO DONT USE IT!</strong><br><br>but cannabiniods are in cannabis , mothers milk, and in your own brain. <br>this is not a chemical addiction, and you can over come it and use cannabis again, dont follow Dr drew , as he admitted himself , cannabis isnt dangerous.AND he as well as many other doctors admit they cant find fault with it scientifically.<br>the real reason why it is prohibited is because big pharma , cannot make money off it. and they cant synthizise it only as far as marinol etc which are only partial constituients.BIG Money cannot get their hamnds on this plant so they dont want people to use it for their health. it would make ely lily and glaxo etc loose money and you politiciansd are in there too doing it for the same reasons , thats why Rumsfeld is in it. <br><br>and if the laws were done away with... well we have laws already in place. <br>DUI driving while intoxicated ( not just drunk) and since smoking is prohibited in every school. and i dont think any parent will allow it in their home, and since its safer than alcohol setting the limit age at 19 should be safe.<br>so no real reasons at all not to abolish prohibition.<br>unless you like the idea of medical cannabis patient dieing several a year as they do in canada due to the governments hatred of us .