testing a holeless dog-bone pouch style

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  1. Arturo Borquez

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    Hello guys I am back home for a couple of days ... resuming my practice my old abused pouch broke, so I had to replace it immediately, but as don't have the tool for making the holes I did a dog-bone holeless pouch from an old pig leather shoes<br>[​IMG]<br>[​IMG]<br>it works very well, I did some testing to this can top<br>[​IMG]<br>and a short video shooting with it (specially for my friend tokSick, hope you are recovering OK man) ... <br><a href="http://youtu.be/hJEa0Zt2_yQ" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">HERE</a> it is<br><br>Cheers<br>Arturo
     
  2. CEZ

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    I have just recently seen a thread on slinghot forum about it, some people say it really makes sense but no one tested it thoroughly. Let us know how it effects bandlife?
     

  3. Flipgun

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    <div>It does indeed appear to work well... or maybe it is just your shooting that makes it look that way! <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_biggrin.png" alt="Very Happy" longdesc="1"><br>I had been considering it and with your input I shall certainly do so.</div><div class="clear"></div><div class="signature_div">
    <br>Failed perception is when you have a gun, I have a slingshot and you think you are the only one that is armed. <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" longdesc="7">
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  4. Arturo Borquez

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    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="center">
    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>CEZ wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">I have just recently seen a thread on slinghot forum about it, some people say it really makes sense but no one tested it thoroughly. Let us know how it effects bandlife?</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br>I saw that thread also and I was lucky because I didn't know how to replace my broken pouch !!! <br>@flipgun this is small (and lighter <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_biggrin.png" alt="Very Happy" longdesc="1">) compared with the old one and I was worried to take a fork hit because it is convex but after a few shoots I realized it is not so different and I could shoot as always ... big deal for me as I don't have the tool to make the holes ...</span>
     
  5. DaveSteve

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    Seems to work great. <br><br>I figure the pouch without a hole has to be a little bit longer than the pouch with a hole because the elastic points towards your finger/thumb.
     
  6. Arturo Borquez

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    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>DaveSteve wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">Seems to work great. <br><br>I figure the pouch without a hole has to be a little bit longer than the pouch with a hole because the elastic points towards your finger/thumb.</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br>Currently is 11cm x 2cm, I find it small but I didn't have more leather .. 12.5cm I believe would be fine ...</span>
     
  7. Bert the Welder

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    So, just to be clear, the ends of the pouch are "dog bone" shape? And this keeps the tie-off from pulling of the end?
     
  8. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    interesting, it does look very neat!
     
  9. FIAAO

    FIAAO Failureisalwaysanoption

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    It looks very clean! If you want to make holes instead in the future most hobby-shops sells these for a very low price, like 5-6 euro or something. But as this seems to work nice, why should you? <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="2">
     
  10. Times have a pouch in attempt to double tape - the top and bottom ....<br><br>Endurance test experience ........ follows<br><br><a href="http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/3195/jrslbyr8_jpg.htm" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://s14.directupload.net/images/130315/temp/jrslbyr8.jpg" border="0" alt=""></a><br><br><br><a href="http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/3195/ypq37ewf_jpg.htm" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://s1.directupload.net/images/130315/temp/ypq37ewf.jpg" border="0" alt=""></a><br><br><a href="http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/3195/ktnsvi5g_jpg.htm" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://s14.directupload.net/images/130315/temp/ktnsvi5g.jpg" border="0" alt=""></a><br><br><a href="http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/3195/yh2naqnm_jpg.htm" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://s1.directupload.net/images/130315/temp/yh2naqnm.jpg" border="0" alt=""></a><br><br><a href="http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/3195/6acegrse_jpg.htm" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://s7.directupload.net/images/130315/temp/6acegrse.jpg" border="0" alt=""></a><br><br><a href="http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/3195/jv6ocxr3_jpg.htm" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://s7.directupload.net/images/130315/temp/jv6ocxr3.jpg" border="0" alt=""></a>
     
  11. stej

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    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>CEZ wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">I have just recently seen a thread on slinghot forum about it, some people say it really makes sense but no one tested it thoroughly. Let us know how it effects bandlife?</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>CEZ, I remember your beautiful pouch with TB black and pfs, was it that attempt?</span>
     
  12. tokSick

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    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>Arturo Borquez wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">(specially for my friend tokSick, hope you are recovering OK man) ...</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br>Hi Arturo,<br>Thank you, you know i really apreciate you little vids and the cans killing <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_twisted.gif" alt="Twisted Evil" longdesc="13"> . I recover little by little, you know. <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" longdesc="14"><br>It is nice to have you back here, making some interesting test and sharing your experiences with us. I will test that " no holes " pouch for sure. My question is: Do you have to cut the pouch in a special shape or just cut it straight?</span>
     
  13. stej

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    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>Thorsten Dr. b. c. (biero wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">Times have a pouch in attempt to double tape - the top and bottom ....<br><br>Endurance test experience ........ follows<br><br>...<br><br>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>Thorsten, thanks for sharing. Looks interesting!</span>
     
  14. Arturo Borquez

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    this is what I did, first cut a rectangle 12cm x 2cm with a roller cutter then rounding and the dog bone ends with scissors <br>[​IMG] <br>@Thorsten I didn't understand too much (the clamps?), your pics are rather small, what can I report yet is that it seems the attachment is reliable pulling 3/4 butterfly, now I will see how much bands lasts and if there is abrasion issues with the contact rubber/leather on the "dog bones" ...<br>@Bert, yes ...<br>@FIAAO the nearest store is at 60km, next trip there I will buy one, it was an emergency solution ...<br>@tokSick keep recovering and patience my friend, my little vids are mainly to watch me (as a mirror) on how I am shooting to improve different aspects as I don't have here a ss fellow to criticize me ...
     
  15. CEZ

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    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>stej wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
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    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>CEZ wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">I have just recently seen a thread on slinghot forum about it, some people say it really makes sense but no one tested it thoroughly. Let us know how it effects bandlife?</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>CEZ, I remember your beautiful pouch with TB black and pfs, was it that attempt?</span>
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    <span class="postbody"><br>That was just an attempt to reduce weight and it worked great but it was a regular hole attachment, not dogbone style.</span>
     
  16. extracts at 6 kg it holds ..... until now! Approx. 150 shots .....<br>-<br>Pictures can be made large, simply click on it to go, and ....!<br>-<br>I think the piece of leather protects the tape even, because the binding is behind it, and not as usual in front!<br><br><br>bei 6 kg auszug hält es ..... bis jetzt! Ca. 150 Schuss.....<br>-<br>Bilder kann man gross machen, einfach drauf gehen, und anklicken....!<br>-<br>Ich glaube das Lederstück schützt das Band sogar, weil die anbindung dahinter ist, und nicht wie sonst davor! <br><br><br><a href="http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/3195/jv6ocxr3_jpg.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/3195/jv6ocxr3_jpg.htm</a><br><br><a href="http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/3195/jrslbyr8_jpg.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/3195/jrslbyr8_jpg.htm</a><br><br><a href="http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/3195/ypq37ewf_jpg.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/3195/ypq37ewf_jpg.htm</a><br><br><a href="http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/3195/ktnsvi5g_jpg.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/3195/ktnsvi5g_jpg.htm</a><br><br><a href="http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/3195/yh2naqnm_jpg.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/3195/yh2naqnm_jpg.htm</a><br><br><a href="http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/3195/6acegrse_jpg.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/3195/6acegrse_jpg.htm</a><br><br><a href="http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/3195/yh2naqnm_jpg.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://s1.directupload.net/file/d/3195/yh2naqnm_jpg.htm</a><br><br>siehe Bilder oben !
     
  17. Arturo Borquez

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    Sorry Thorsten for being so dumb !!! yes it clear from your pics on how you did it thanks ! with double bands the way you did (one in front and the other behind) is the best to avoid slipping, currently I am using single bands only for economy reasons (and of course with the 3/4 butterfly I am reaching above 90m/s with 12mm steel near 30J ! and good endurance). Apropos I heard that you actually don't have a Crony, is it? because I would like to have a timed audio or video file (a pointer to download) to test my conjecture about the simplified audio crony if you can help me to do so I would be grateful ...<br>Cheers<br>Arturo
     
  18. Chrony audio is not so good ...... and does work!<br>Is there a chronometer Conne for Android,<br><a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chronoconnect.mobile.lite" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chronoconnect.mobile.lite</a><br><a href="http://www.chronoconnect.com/?page=mobile" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.chronoconnect.com/?page=mobile</a><br><br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj7xhXluDLw" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj7xhXluDLw</a><br><br><br>or PC, then best secured with two microphones directly to the leaves by the fire!<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_94h3QRru6M" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_94h3QRru6M</a><br><br>Audio chrony ist leider nicht so gut ...... und macht arbeit!<br>Gibt es als Chrono Conne für Android, <br><a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chronoconnect.mobile.lite" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.chronoconnect.mobile.lite</a><br><a href="http://www.chronoconnect.com/?page=mobile" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.chronoconnect.com/?page=mobile</a><br><br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj7xhXluDLw" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj7xhXluDLw</a><br><br><br>oder für PC, dann am besten mit zwei Mikrofonen, direkt an Blättern zum durchschießen befestigt!<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_94h3QRru6M" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_94h3QRru6M</a>
     
  19. CEZ

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    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>Arturo Borquez wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">Sorry Thorsten for being so dumb !!! yes it clear from your pics on how you did it thanks ! with double bands the way you did (one in front and the other behind) is the best to avoid slipping, currently I am using single bands only for economy reasons (and of course with the 3/4 butterfly I am reaching above 90m/s with 12mm steel near 30J ! and good endurance). Apropos I heard that you actually don't have a Crony, is it? because I would like to have a timed audio or video file (a pointer to download) to test my conjecture about the simplified audio crony if you can help me to do so I would be grateful ...<br>Cheers<br>Arturo</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br>90mps is a very good result Arturo! What are your band dimensions? <br>How many shots have you done more or less by now? Any band abrasion or breakage so far?<br>When I shoot that fast my bands usually don't last longer than 200 shots, I actually blame the pouch attachment a lot.</span>
     
  20. Arturo Borquez

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    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>CEZ wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
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    <tr><td class="quote">Sorry Thorsten for being so dumb !!! yes it clear from your pics on how you did it thanks ! with double bands the way you did (one in front and the other behind) is the best to avoid slipping, currently I am using single bands only for economy reasons (and of course with the 3/4 butterfly I am reaching above 90m/s with 12mm steel near 30J ! and good endurance). Apropos I heard that you actually don't have a Crony, is it? because I would like to have a timed audio or video file (a pointer to download) to test my conjecture about the simplified audio crony if you can help me to do so I would be grateful ...<br>Cheers<br>Arturo</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br>90mps is a very good result Arturo! What are your band dimensions? <br>How many shots have you done more or less by now? Any band abrasion or breakage so far?<br>When I shoot that fast my bands usually don't last longer than 200 shots, I actually blame the pouch attachment a lot.</span>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>Hi CEZ, I guess 200+ shots (20 to 30 rounds 10 shots each) until now no signs of abrasion at the pouch, will see if survives 200 shoots more tomorrow, my setup is CANDO gold 23mm x 17mm 30cm length singles, 135cm draw 12mm steel, with 25mm x 15mm and 11mm steel in a hot day I've got 120m/s ...</span>