speed for hunting

Discussion in 'General Slingshot Discussions' started by meeeee!, Nov 19, 2012.

  1. meeeee!

    meeeee! New Member

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    what is the minimum amount of speed needed for hunting? i do not mean power, i mean speed. if it is too slow the target could just move out of the way, so what do you think the minimum speed for hunting is?
     
  2. Arturo Borquez

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    better take your time ... the slowly as possible ...
     

  3. Arturo Borquez

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    you should do this kind of questions in the OFF TOPIC section I guess ...
     
  4. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    well Arturo, as this still is a slingshot question...<br>but to come back to the speed question, i have no idea whatshowever
     
  5. DaveSteve

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    You know there is a difference in impact if you are hit with a pea at a speed of 90 m/s or if you get hit by a brick with a speed of 10 m/s. <br><br>It all depends. <br><br>I will PM you with further info.
     
  6. 1000yardshooter

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    For hunting its isnt the speed its the amount of joules. So get some 30mmsteel balls and that should be good enough to kill a rabbit. And calculate your bands and that should be good for hunting. When hunting bird use no more than a 10mm steel and for rabbit 20mm should do the trick.
     
  7. CEZ

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    Shooting rabbits with 30mm balls? I think they would fly off with the ammo:p
     
  8. meeeee!

    meeeee! New Member

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    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="center">
    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>DaveSteve wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">You know there is a difference in impact if you are hit with a pea at a speed of 90 m/s or if you get hit by a brick with a speed of 10 m/s. <br><br>It all depends. <br><br>I will PM you with further info.</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br>yes. <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_eek.gif" alt="Shocked" longdesc="5"></span>
     
  9. Arturo Borquez

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    I've understand the question as "how much time I must take before shooting" as wasn't a power related question ???
     
  10. meeeee!

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    i am talking about speed. for example, you could throw a bowling ball at a rabbit, it would have more than enough power to kill it, but at that speed the rabbit could just hop out of the way. <br><br>what im asking is what speed you should be looking for when hunting, not how much power.
     
  11. zwillie

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    Hi,<br>you need some speed to make the ammo fly straight.<br><br>Here a pic<br><a href="http://www.l2i.org/slingshot/Sub_02/ChartVelocityDropRange.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.l2i.org/slingshot/Sub_02/ChartVelocityDropRange.jpg</a><br><br>So you have to aim a little higher<br><br>Here<br><a href="http://www.l2i.org/slingshot/Sub_03/BallisticAngleRange.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.l2i.org/slingshot/Sub_03/BallisticAngleRange.jpg</a><br><br>and again the dropping<br><br><a href="http://www.l2i.org/slingshot/Sub_02/ChartRangeDrop.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.l2i.org/slingshot/Sub_02/ChartRangeDrop.jpg</a><br><br>Zwillie
     
  12. Arturo Borquez

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    ok ... the more speed, less the time has the pray to react with the noise when releasing ... it happens that the more speed is also more power and momentum which helps penetration or a heavy shock with a large ammo ...<br>
     
  13. meeeee!

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    hypothetically, if you were using extremely heavy ammo that is able to kill at a very slow speed, at what speed would you want to hit your target? <br><br>i could just walk up to an animal and punch it in the head, but it would run off before i got that close. what speed would you want in order to keep the animal from reacting?
     
  14. Arturo Borquez

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    good point zwillie ... and the time will be greater and trajectory will be "curved" at longer distance, that adds time to react and inaccuracy to the shoot ...
     
  15. meeeee!

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    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="center">
    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>Arturo Borquez wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">ok ... the more speed, less the time has the pray to react with the noise when releasing ... it happens that the more speed is also more power and momentum which helps penetration or a heavy shock with a large ammo ...<br>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>you pretty much get it. the slowest speed i have heard of people hunting with is 150 fps. is it possible to go slower than that assuming you still had enough power to kill?</span>
     
  16. Arturo Borquez

    Arturo Borquez Administrator

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    Sorry for the question meeee! have you ever hunted ? ... it not easy to get close to the prey and also is not easy to give a head shot ... the more close the more chance are that you lose your prey, but also the more close the more chance to hit ... it's a compromise, it depends on many unknown things (the sun, the shadows, the wind, the odours, the noise ....) ....
     
  17. meeeee!

    meeeee! New Member

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    ive hunted a few times, not that often. <br>this was just a hypothetical question, using really heavy ammo, what would be the slowest it could travel and still be able to hit the target?
     
  18. zwillie

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    If you are interested in ss hunting look here.<br><br><a href="http://slingshothunting.freeforums.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://slingshothunting.freeforums.org/</a><br><br>First I would use Tubes because bands (TBG) have a higher risk of damage outdoor (thorns).<br><br><br>8mm steel and TBG issen`t a good hunting setup.<br>12mm Steel and 10mm lead is a good ammo.<br>With strong tubes (I use 3060 double) you have a straight and fast shot.<br>The weight of the ammo with a good speed makes a lot of energy.<br><br>Please:<br>If you can`t kill the animal 100% with one shot... let it live.
     
  19. tokSick

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    Hey zwillie,<br>I think if you don' t kill the animal with one shot you got to be able/dare to break his neck to finish it. I don' t hunt but if something like that happened that' s what i will do for not make it suffer.<br>Once again, i don' t hunt but i have nothing against it if the prey don' t suffer.
     
  20. meeeee!

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    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="center">
    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>zwillie wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
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    <br><br>First I would use Tubes because bands (TBG) have a higher risk of damage outdoor (thorns).<br><br><br>8mm steel and TBG issen`t a good hunting setup.<br>12mm Steel and 10mm lead is a good ammo.<br>With strong tubes (I use 3060 double) you have a straight and fast shot.<br>The weight of the ammo with a good speed makes a lot of energy.<br><br>Please:<br>If you can`t kill the animal 100% with one shot... let it live.</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>i think bands would still be better for hunting.<br>i was not looking for advice on hunting.</span>