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Discussion in 'General Slingshot Discussions' started by Ryan Wigglesworth, Apr 15, 2012.

  1. Ryan Wigglesworth

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    What do you think of this, I started using slingshotforum a little the other day , I had a link of this forum as my signature and they removed it, said it goes against the policies. So I asked if using Joergs youtube link was alright and got the go ahead from one mod, but another mod removed it about 10 minutes later saying it well il just post.<br><br>`ryan, as part of your signature you have a permanent link to another <br>site. this is not permitted, if you do have an occasional link to share <br>that would be fine. but part of your sig is more od an advertisement <br>than a helpful hint.<br><br><br><br>So my putting Joergs youtube link is a no no now too. I`m really not sure what to do next , would they allow me to simply say Joerg Sprave is the best, or is that an advertisement they cannot deal with on someones personal sig... blah Maybe if I just put a picture of Joerg smiling they cannot say I`m doing anything wrong... <br><br>It`s very strange there, but I really like the gallery to show off and store my works :s I`m so torn <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_silent.png" alt="silent" longdesc="25"><br><br><br>edit- this is my current signature, it in no way links to this forum.<br><br>Joerg Sprave 2012!<br><br><a href="http://slingshotchannel.blogspot.ca/" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://slingshotchannel.blogspot.ca/</a><br><br>edit- they removed the whole thing said I am not Joerg so I cannot talk about Joerg or link to any of his cool stuff. sad.
     
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    Well, Ryan, I checked things out over there, and there don't seem to be that many people with external links in the signatures, and the ones that do have them are all going to personal pages of the users. Not saying I agree with them, cause I don't, just saying I can't find anyone else with non personal external links. Hope it works out for you man.
     

  3. JoergS

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    The myriad of rules these guys have... when I was a mod on that forum, there were endless discussions about such issues. I remember the stupid "copy cat" and "vendor" fights... <br><br>I don't care about signatures - as long as they are polite, they may direct to external websites all day long. <br><br>But it seems they see this site as competition to theirs, which is kind of childish. Many people are on both forums, and that's fine. Most of my old videos even still have the link to their forum. All I did was I stopped using it. <br><br>No need to post links to my forum there, most people found that forum because they first found my videos.
     
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    Ryan,<br>Surely it sounds like competition. Joerg always review in his videos the commercial products of the brands(A+, EHS and pocket preditors and all other brands) who are advertised in Manufacturer's forums section in that forums. <br>Their actions look very stupid.<br>May be the owners of these brands are playing silent 'war' and 'keep away' against Joerg, because Joerg encourage everyone to make our own slingshots. People also make copies of these commercial designs at home. Which in turn gives them great business loss.<br>An Idea,<br>Make the same topic in the General off topic section in that forums and let all the members know what happened.
     
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    <tr><td class="quote">The myriad of rules these guys have... when I was a mod on that forum, there were endless discussions about such issues. I remember the stupid "copy cat" and "vendor" fights... <br><br>I don't care about signatures - as long as they are polite, they may direct to external websites all day long. <br><br>But it seems they see this site as competition to theirs, which is kind of childish. Many people are on both forums, and that's fine. Most of my old videos even still have the link to their forum. All I did was I stopped using it. <br><br>No need to post links to my forum there, most people found that forum because they first found my videos.</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br>I agree many people are on both forums so i don' t understand the point for that kind of " censorship ". I saw some unfriendly responses on some topics there, so i just try to learn from that forum from what i see and read. I give some comments on what i like but not more. If i have to ask something i prefer to do it here. The two forums are complementary in my opinion, and there is many nice people on the SSF too.</span>
     
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    i had the same thing only i have a link to my own blog in my sig there and not 5 mins later a mod contacted me that i was advertising and after a long talk with 2 of the mods i still have my sig and i can put any link in that i want as long as the site wich is linked to isnt an online shopping thing
     
  7. Ryan Wigglesworth

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    <tr><td class="quote">i had the same thing only i have a link to my own blog in my sig there and not 5 mins later a mod contacted me that i was advertising and after a long talk with 2 of the mods i still have my sig and i can put any link in that i want as long as the site wich is linked to isnt an online shopping thing</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>try to put a link to anything to do with Joerg lol I was eventually told that URLS in sigs are a no no, I pointed out the fact the signature input screen says you may place as many URLS as you like in it... but they dont seem to read their own rules, or even write their own rules in a legible way, IE: there is nowhere in the rules saying I cant link to a blog of Joerg, but who needs rules when you have 12 mods all eager to lay down their own variations of rules they overheard someday in a conversation . stupid shit, I asked if this was something against Joerg specifically and the one mod said no way and that he was influenced by you also :s<br><br><br>I left a status update talking about the fact that marijuana was not just a drug and has medical uses aside from pain relief with a title of a documentary to watch... they deleted it. that forum is a piece of shit and I have no idea why the fuck I went there... there is no freedom of expression I guess, you must fit with the established guidelines or you are not welcome.</span>
     
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    <tr><td class="quote">i had the same thing only i have a link to my own blog in my sig there and not 5 mins later a mod contacted me that i was advertising and after a long talk with 2 of the mods i still have my sig and i can put any link in that i want as long as the site wich is linked to isnt an online shopping thing</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>try to put a link to anything to do with Joerg lol I was eventually told that URLS in sigs are a no no, I pointed out the fact the signature input screen says you may place as many URLS as you like in it... but they dont seem to read their own rules, or even write their own rules in a legible way, IE: there is nowhere in the rules saying I cant link to a blog of Joerg, but who needs rules when you have 12 mods all eager to lay down their own variations of rules they overheard someday in a conversation . stupid shit, I asked if this was something against Joerg specifically and the one mod said no way and that he was influenced by you also :s</span>
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    <span class="postbody"><br>i tried to modify my sig to put in a link to joergs site but it sad max urls 0 :S so now no links is posible at all</span>
     
  9. Ryan Wigglesworth

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    <tr><td class="quote">Ryan,<br>Surely it sounds like competition. Joerg always review in his videos the commercial products of the brands(A+, EHS and pocket preditors and all other brands) who are advertised in Manufacturer's forums section in that forums. <br>Their actions look very stupid.<br>May be the owners of these brands are playing silent 'war' and 'keep away' against Joerg, because Joerg encourage everyone to make our own slingshots. People also make copies of these commercial designs at home. Which in turn gives them great business loss.<br>An Idea,<br>Make the same topic in the General off topic section in that forums and let all the members know what happened.</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br><br>You said it best man, this is all about profit. And at the same time is ignorant. wow</span>
     
  10. JoergS

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    At least you gave these mods some food for discussion in their secluded mod only subforum. <br><br>I think this is all OK, there is the big "mainstream" forum with lots of rules and bureaucrats, and there are some smaller forums that are generally more easy and leaned back.
     
  11. Ryan Wigglesworth

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    <tr><td class="quote">At least you gave these mods some food for discussion in their secluded mod only subforum. <br><br>I think this is all OK, there is the big "mainstream" forum with lots of rules and bureaucrats, and there are some smaller forums that are generally more easy and leaned back.</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>You scare them Joerg, I think they are well aware you are the main draw to their site , and they don't want their members to realize it or something <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" longdesc="9"></span>
     
  12. JoergS

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    I don't think that I scare them. I am just a controversial figure in the slingshot world. Many believe that I am the walking reason for lots of governments to ban slingshots, so it is their own government that scares them.<br><br>I, for one, don't care. I do my thing and it is a lot of fun.
     
  13. Ryan Wigglesworth

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    My next slingshot for display on that site will be tagged with your youtube channel link and link to this forum <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" longdesc="9"> HA <br><br><br><br>Ok maybe not scare, but they are envious perhaps <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_razz.gif" alt="Razz" longdesc="9"> that and trying to profit <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" longdesc="15">
     
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    That is what it is all about, FUN...<br>Ryan:<br>Like Joerg said, you just give them a bone to bite on. I have read some topics from you and i can tell you' re realy not a stupid guy. But i think it is better to take what you can take from stupid people and let them believe that you are as stupid as they are. I know that sounds crazy when you have you ideas and want to tell/share it, but with some people it is just impossible. The profit they make is nothing compares with the fun we got,don' t you think?<br>I am new( 2011-12-23) but to me Joerg is like a friend from long time, he is like family and i don' t know him personaly. That( He) makes the difference. Remember, FUN...<br>P.S : Sorry for my broken english <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" longdesc="15"><br>P.P.S : From the moment that there are mods on a forum, the freedom of speech is gone. And there is really something going on about Joerg on the SSF but only him knows what and i don' t think he wants to tell us( i don' t think he just cares about).
     
  15. JoergS

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    Oh, the story isn't a secret. A guy who really hates me (from Germany) insulted me, personally, first on his own forum and then in a heated discussion on the SSF. Very offensive language. He refused to apologize, said he only spoke out the truth. <br><br>I did what most mods would do after a direct insult by a member, and asked the admin for backup. No luck. After all my mod and recruiting work for that forum, I felt let down and stopped posting. <br><br>The mods weeded out the entire discussion and did not mention the whole affair anymore. They pulled my moderator rights, deleted all my mail correspondence (probably without realizing that), and made me a "Gold Sponsor" (though I never donated a penny). <br><br>That's OK, it was time for me to leave that place anyway. Many of my inventions aren't slingshots anymore. I moved on, simple as that.
     
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    That' s sad( for them). I still belive that this is the best forum and you made it worthy. We would never thank you enough( for most of the members here i think) for all what you do. Just don' t be like some of those jerks, no censorship please. But i know you' re not that kind of man.
     
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    No censorship for sure, except if someone breaks my politeness rule.
     
  18. Ryan Wigglesworth

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    I second that tokSick. <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_cheers.png" alt="cheers" longdesc="28">
     
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    in the spirit of fairness and with JOERG'S open non editing policy...... a rebuttal.<br>to Ryan wigglesworth, he did post the opening statement, but he forgot the follow up conversation:<br><br>Posted Yesterday, 06:53 PM<br>625]<br>Sent Today, 04:21 PM<br>ryan, as part of your signature you have a permanent link to another site. this is not permitted, if you do have an occasional link to share that would be fine. but part of your sig is more od an advertisement than a helpful hint.<br>Reply<br>Report<br>Edit<br>Ryan Wigglesworth<br><br><br><br>Members<br>22 posts<br>0 warning points<br>LocationCanada<br>625]<br>Sent Today, 05:16 PM<br>hows this boss <br>My inspiration for getting into the slingshot hobby was mainly Joerg Sprave , he is a great shooter and really displays the potential of rubber to the world on his youtube channel, another influential figure in my interest is Flatband , if it wasn`t for his tutorials and videos I`m not sure where I would be! There are other greats, but these 2 guys are the main reason for my interest in slingshots Thanks guys <br>Reply<br>Report<br>Edit<br>Delete<br><br>newconvert<br><br><br><br>2000 Club<br><br>Moderators<br><br>2,846 posts<br>Locationdenver, co.<br>625]<br>Sent 21 minutes ago<br>lol, the problem is you are not Joerge, and if you were you would be a vendor or Jeorge knows to not push other sites on other sites. sigs are about sayings, avatars, not links,<br><br>thanks<br>Reply<br>Report<br>Edit<br>Delete<br><br>Ryan Wigglesworth<br><br><br><br>Members<br>22 posts<br>0 warning points<br>LocationCanada<br>625]<br>Sent 15 minutes ago<br>ok well to be fair it says nothing in the rules about this, and in the signature input section it states a signature can be any amount of urls :s<br><br>are you out to get joerg<br><br>My inspiration for getting into the slingshot hobby was mainly Joerg Sprave , he is a great shooter and really displays the potential of rubber to the world on his youtube channel, another influential figure in my interest is Flatband , if it wasn`t for his tutorials and videos I`m not sure where I would be! There are other greats, but these 2 guys are the main reason for my interest in slingshots Thanks guys<br>Reply<br>Report<br>Edit<br>Delete<br><br>newconvert<br><br><br><br>2000 Club<br><br>Moderators<br><br>2,846 posts<br>Locationdenver, co.<br>625]<br>Sent 7 minutes ago<br><br>excuse me, when i opened the window i had not reset the page so i still saw the old sig. yes your sig is actually very nice.<br><br>again my apologies,<br>Mark,<br>Jeorge? ha............ he's everyone hero, including mine!<br><br>to Zamarion,<br>i was the mod who contacted you, our conversation i no longer have, it was that long ago! but i do now see you are a 2 faced person. in our conversation i questioned your sig, you told me it was just your personal site showcasing your work, nothing for sale. i checked it and you were right! so i told you everything looked good, from that point you were a fairly good member! i have seen on 2 separate site now how you speak badly of other sites including the SSF, In one site they were kidding you about your skills, so what if you dont have any skills, its the best you can do, we dont laugh at you on the SSF. so i see that you just agree and embellish to gain approval, thats gone now my lost friend.<br><br>to Joerge, sorry this had to air on your channel, what i said in my final response to wiggly is that you were most slingers hero's, that is true, and it would be nice to see you pop in and out every now and again, controversy over your Status? there would not be any if you didnt have talent. its called jealousy, none here? or at the SSF.<br><br><br>
     
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    Interesting you must throw in insults with my name, very mature of you sir <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="2"><br><br><br>Anyways, what exactly are you trying to prove? Should I post all the messages I received about this from all 3 mods? <br><br><br>ok this from Sling Jim <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><strong><br><br><br><a href="http://slingshotforum.com/user/2822-sling-jim/" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Sling Jim</a><br><br><br></strong><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><ul>Craftsman<br><li>
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    <br><br><br><br><br><br><br> Sent Yesterday, 12:38 PM<br><br><br><br> Easy Ryan, I have had to edit your signature as links to external forums are not permitted on the Slingshot Forum. <br><br>P.S <br>You might want to cool it with any references to Mary Jane as it doesn't reflect well on our google rankings <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png" border="0" alt=""><br><br>All the best mate,<br>Jim.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><img src="http://i42.tinypic.com/160vo29.png" border="0" alt=""><br><br><a href="http://slingshotforu...2822-sling-jim/" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><font color="#696969">My Slingshot Forum Gallery</font></a><br><br><font color="#a9a9a9"><img src="http://i43.tinypic.com/rbiip5.jpg" border="0" alt=""> Catapults made by Jim Williams</font><br><br><font color="#A9A9A9">Made In Sheffield. </font><br><br><br><br><br><ul>
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    <br><br><br><br><br><br><br> Sent Yesterday, 04:31 PM<br><br><br><br> I'll take this opportunity to tell you how much I admire your work <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png" border="0" alt=""><br> It is very nice stuff!, I aspire to something similar in greatness and <br>beauty... but if I may ask 1 question of you and your techniques, when <br>you are doing scales on slingshots do you do the scales separate and <br>then put them on after? I have been doing them together but as I <br>experiment with exotics and mixes of woods and metals I come across <br>issues with sanding all at once... So how does a pro like yourself do it<br> if you don't mind me asking?<br><br>Thanks!<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><font face="comic sans ms"><font color="#3333FF">My</font> <font color="#FF8C00">inspiration</font> <font color="#FF0000">for</font> <font color="#40E0D0">getting</font> <font color="#2F4F4F">into </font><font color="#CC00FF">the </font><font color="#00FF00">slingshot </font><font color="#800000">hobby </font><font color="#800080">was </font><font color="#0000CD">mainly</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Joerg Sprave <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font> <font face="comic sans ms">, he is a great shooter and really displays the potential of rubber to the world on his <font color="#ff0000">youtube</font> <font color="#ff0000">channel</font>, another <font color="#a52a2a">influential</font> <font color="#8b4513">figure</font> <font color="#000080">in</font> <font color="#336633">my</font> <font color="#4b0082">interest </font><font color="#800000">is</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Flatband <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">, if it wasn`t for his tutorials and videos I`m not sure where I would be! There are other greats, but these <font color="#ff0000">2</font> guys are the main reason for my interest in slingshots <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png" border="0" alt=""><img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Thanks guys</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""><br><br><br><br><ul>
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    <br><br><br><br><br><br><br> Sent Yesterday, 04:32 PM<br><br><br><br> so when I say do I mean finish them sanding , finishes ect<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><font face="comic sans ms"><font color="#3333FF">My</font> <font color="#FF8C00">inspiration</font> <font color="#FF0000">for</font> <font color="#40E0D0">getting</font> <font color="#2F4F4F">into </font><font color="#CC00FF">the </font><font color="#00FF00">slingshot </font><font color="#800000">hobby </font><font color="#800080">was </font><font color="#0000CD">mainly</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Joerg Sprave <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font> <font face="comic sans ms">, he is a great shooter and really displays the potential of rubber to the world on his <font color="#ff0000">youtube</font> <font color="#ff0000">channel</font>, another <font color="#a52a2a">influential</font> <font color="#8b4513">figure</font> <font color="#000080">in</font> <font color="#336633">my</font> <font color="#4b0082">interest </font><font color="#800000">is</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Flatband <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">, if it wasn`t for his tutorials and videos I`m not sure where I would be! There are other greats, but these <font color="#ff0000">2</font> guys are the main reason for my interest in slingshots <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png" border="0" alt=""><img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Thanks guys</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""><br><br><br><br><ul>
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    <br><br><br><br><br><br><br> Sent Yesterday, 04:43 PM<br><br><br><br> Thank you, that is pretty much what I do, I just notice some <br>issues with certain things splashing over to other things and I was <br>wondering if you or others did them separate and then pieced them <br>together. thanks for your time. have a good day <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png" border="0" alt=""><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><font face="comic sans ms"><font color="#3333FF">My</font> <font color="#FF8C00">inspiration</font> <font color="#FF0000">for</font> <font color="#40E0D0">getting</font> <font color="#2F4F4F">into </font><font color="#CC00FF">the </font><font color="#00FF00">slingshot </font><font color="#800000">hobby </font><font color="#800080">was </font><font color="#0000CD">mainly</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Joerg Sprave <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font> <font face="comic sans ms">, he is a great shooter and really displays the potential of rubber to the world on his <font color="#ff0000">youtube</font> <font color="#ff0000">channel</font>, another <font color="#a52a2a">influential</font> <font color="#8b4513">figure</font> <font color="#000080">in</font> <font color="#336633">my</font> <font color="#4b0082">interest </font><font color="#800000">is</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Flatband <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">, if it wasn`t for his tutorials and videos I`m not sure where I would be! There are other greats, but these <font color="#ff0000">2</font> guys are the main reason for my interest in slingshots <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png" border="0" alt=""><img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Thanks guys</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""><br><br><br><br><ul>
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    <br><br><br><br><br><br><br> Sent Yesterday, 06:51 PM<br><br><br><br> well this one cant be bad...<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><font face="comic sans ms"><font color="#3333FF">My</font> <font color="#FF8C00">inspiration</font> <font color="#FF0000">for</font> <font color="#40E0D0">getting</font> <font color="#2F4F4F">into </font><font color="#CC00FF">the </font><font color="#00FF00">slingshot </font><font color="#800000">hobby </font><font color="#800080">was </font><font color="#0000CD">mainly</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Joerg Sprave <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font> <font face="comic sans ms">, he is a great shooter and really displays the potential of rubber to the world on his <font color="#ff0000">youtube</font> <font color="#ff0000">channel</font>, another <font color="#a52a2a">influential</font> <font color="#8b4513">figure</font> <font color="#000080">in</font> <font color="#336633">my</font> <font color="#4b0082">interest </font><font color="#800000">is</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Flatband <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">, if it wasn`t for his tutorials and videos I`m not sure where I would be! There are other greats, but these <font color="#ff0000">2</font> guys are the main reason for my interest in slingshots <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png" border="0" alt=""><img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Thanks guys</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""><br><br><br><br><ul>
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    <br><br><br><br><br><br><br> Sent Yesterday, 11:00 AM<br><br><br><br> really? i cant link to Joergs forum? if i cant link why isnt linkin disabled?<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><font face="comic sans ms"><font color="#3333FF">My</font> <font color="#FF8C00">inspiration</font> <font color="#FF0000">for</font> <font color="#40E0D0">getting</font> <font color="#2F4F4F">into </font><font color="#CC00FF">the </font><font color="#00FF00">slingshot </font><font color="#800000">hobby </font><font color="#800080">was </font><font color="#0000CD">mainly</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Joerg Sprave <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font> <font face="comic sans ms">, he is a great shooter and really displays the potential of rubber to the world on his <font color="#ff0000">youtube</font> <font color="#ff0000">channel</font>, another <font color="#a52a2a">influential</font> <font color="#8b4513">figure</font> <font color="#000080">in</font> <font color="#336633">my</font> <font color="#4b0082">interest </font><font color="#800000">is</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Flatband <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">, if it wasn`t for his tutorials and videos I`m not sure where I would be! There are other greats, but these <font color="#ff0000">2</font> guys are the main reason for my interest in slingshots <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png" border="0" alt=""><img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Thanks guys</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""><br><br><br><br><ul>
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    <br><br><br><br><br><br><br> Sent Yesterday, 11:01 AM<br><br><br><br> where is this policy written that i can read it?<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><font face="comic sans ms"><font color="#3333FF">My</font> <font color="#FF8C00">inspiration</font> <font color="#FF0000">for</font> <font color="#40E0D0">getting</font> <font color="#2F4F4F">into </font><font color="#CC00FF">the </font><font color="#00FF00">slingshot </font><font color="#800000">hobby </font><font color="#800080">was </font><font color="#0000CD">mainly</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Joerg Sprave <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font> <font face="comic sans ms">, he is a great shooter and really displays the potential of rubber to the world on his <font color="#ff0000">youtube</font> <font color="#ff0000">channel</font>, another <font color="#a52a2a">influential</font> <font color="#8b4513">figure</font> <font color="#000080">in</font> <font color="#336633">my</font> <font color="#4b0082">interest </font><font color="#800000">is</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Flatband <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">, if it wasn`t for his tutorials and videos I`m not sure where I would be! There are other greats, but these <font color="#ff0000">2</font> guys are the main reason for my interest in slingshots <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png" border="0" alt=""><img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Thanks guys</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""><br><br><br><br><ul>
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    <br><br><br><br><br><br><br> Sent Yesterday, 11:19 AM<br><br><br><br> I'm not trying to be a dick, but I read through these rules <a href="http://slingshotforum.com/index.php?app=forums&module=extras&section=boardrules" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://slingshotforu...tion=boardrules</a><br> and there isnt anything in regards to what you are saying? it says <br>signatures that are breaking rules will be removed... im not selling <br>anything?? please clear this up for me ty <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png" border="0" alt=""><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><font face="comic sans ms"><font color="#3333FF">My</font> <font color="#FF8C00">inspiration</font> <font color="#FF0000">for</font> <font color="#40E0D0">getting</font> <font color="#2F4F4F">into </font><font color="#CC00FF">the </font><font color="#00FF00">slingshot </font><font color="#800000">hobby </font><font color="#800080">was </font><font color="#0000CD">mainly</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Joerg Sprave <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font> <font face="comic sans ms">, he is a great shooter and really displays the potential of rubber to the world on his <font color="#ff0000">youtube</font> <font color="#ff0000">channel</font>, another <font color="#a52a2a">influential</font> <font color="#8b4513">figure</font> <font color="#000080">in</font> <font color="#336633">my</font> <font color="#4b0082">interest </font><font color="#800000">is</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Flatband <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">, if it wasn`t for his tutorials and videos I`m not sure where I would be! There are other greats, but these <font color="#ff0000">2</font> guys are the main reason for my interest in slingshots <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png" border="0" alt=""><img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Thanks guys</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""><br><br><br><br><ul>
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    <br><br><br><br><br><br><br> Sent Yesterday, 04:18 PM<br><br><br><br> nvm this was cleared up by Sling Jim, thx for looking out <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png" border="0" alt=""><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><font face="comic sans ms"><font color="#3333FF">My</font> <font color="#FF8C00">inspiration</font> <font color="#FF0000">for</font> <font color="#40E0D0">getting</font> <font color="#2F4F4F">into </font><font color="#CC00FF">the </font><font color="#00FF00">slingshot </font><font color="#800000">hobby </font><font color="#800080">was </font><font color="#0000CD">mainly</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Joerg Sprave <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font> <font face="comic sans ms">, he is a great shooter and really displays the potential of rubber to the world on his <font color="#ff0000">youtube</font> <font color="#ff0000">channel</font>, another <font color="#a52a2a">influential</font> <font color="#8b4513">figure</font> <font color="#000080">in</font> <font color="#336633">my</font> <font color="#4b0082">interest </font><font color="#800000">is</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Flatband <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">, if it wasn`t for his tutorials and videos I`m not sure where I would be! There are other greats, but these <font color="#ff0000">2</font> guys are the main reason for my interest in slingshots <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png" border="0" alt=""><img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""></font><font face="comic sans ms">Thanks guys</font> <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/bowdown.gif" border="0" alt=""><br><br><br><br><ul>
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    <br><br><br><br><br><br> Sent Yesterday, 08:06 PM<br><br><br><br> Ryan<br><br>No problem. It really wasn't your fault and being new to the forum <br>sometimes it can be a curve. Nothing personal against you the rules are<br> enforced the same with all of us. <img src="http://images.slingshotforum.com/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png" border="0" alt="">. I've been at work all day so couldn't check the forum much. <br><br>Sean<br><br><br><br><br><br><br> * Fork Hunter *<br><br>Natural Slingshots...Mother Nature's Geo cache.<br><br><br><br><br><br>In regards to this though mr new convert, how is a link to someones blog or youtube channel " ryan, as part of your signature you have a permanent link to another <br>site. this is not permitted, if you do have an occasional link to share <br>that would be fine. but part of your sig is more od an advertisement <br>than a helpful hint."<br><br>How is that against the rules like you said in your msg? just because all links are a no no now?<br><br><br>As you can see by the msgs mr new convert my signature was okayd by another mod after I changed it from the forum to the youtube channel, but that was deleted by you and you also deleted the blog link that I changed it to in response to you deleting the youtube link sig.<br><br>If you have a ban on signature URLS which is now implemented and written in the rules show me. cause it wasnt yesterday.