(edited version) HI, wow, i finally made it, it has been an absolute nuthouse 'round here! this morn; i dinged up the scube (English= "I severely smashed/wrote off the Subaru"), my coin got looted (English= "My finances disappeared in the ether") and well, that's enough for now- hey? BUUUUUUUT!!! I have been a truly busy lad, In between abject poverty and dodging the coppers, who have been kind enough to allow me to sequester a mere gorilla from the kick, this month... I HAVE MADE LOADS, AND LOADS OF SLINGSHOTS!!! i used some of the designs from this forum, and kept meself busy. I have found that collecting naturals is the best way to make truly strong, unique and light slingshots, as i started off with a few board cuts, then tried a natural or two and got hooked. as cash is a concern for now, you will notice that most of the pieces have "lucker's" as the power units, with the exception of one. i got some speargun rubber from the rubber joint way before i started my proper research, though powerful, i think i would like more the Theraband, although Gold is unobtainable at my local, silver, black and blue, are... and as cheap as ebay (without the postage fee). there are two steelies in the mix, both welded with my trusty "Miller Thunderbolt 225" arc welding machine with excellent results. I am not totally stoked with the "straightness" of the Rheo-bar "W-Frame", but bugger me silly, it shoots like a rifle, 50% better than ANYTHING else i have pulled on. The shanghai/budokan made from steel and Acacia, is solid and shoots ok. a bit heavy, but can be banded with anything, for any power, by a complete twitsy within a few seconds... but then having said that, i have been wrong before... the two "hammerheads" were a complete revelation, one is from a natural fork, called stringy bark (a eucalyptus sub. sp.) and the other, wait for it... BLACK WALNUT!, wow! it blew me away, dad gave me a bit of timber from work saying, "here, found it in the bin, can we burn it?" my reply- "ta, i make that into something..." i have a "hammerhead" and a "ram's bone" to finish off, could be a while... will keep ya posted. the "rams bone" with the black speargun rubber bands is another stringy bark natural. two acacia naturals, with "ergo" grips, shoot awesome, and have a nice feel. a mini, from stringy bark again, and a "fish donger", made by hand for a taxi driver for those late night fishing trips, where the "barracuda" is present. every Shangai is treated in beeswax, some are oiled first, but then everything gets the beeswax treatment! heat gun, beeswax, more beeswax, and wiped with a cloth... seems to work. please enjoy photos, soon to follow, wont be long. Bye for now!