New butterfly release: A breaktrough?

Discussion in 'General Slingshot Discussions' started by JoergS, Jan 12, 2012.

  1. JoergS

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    Tobias is having great success with his "fistgrip" release technique. This made me thinking - is it time for a completely new approach to the release issue?<br><br>Made a quick and dirty prototype today with leftover multiplex. I was afraid that it ain't possible to hold the thing together when drawing out, but in fact it is necessary to <br>consciously open your hand!<br><br>This opens the door to completely new power dimensions. In most cases, it the the pouch hand, <br>not the arm and shoulder muscles, that determine the draw. This eliminated the need for a strong hand. <br><br>And it is soo easy to make. All you need is a bit of wood and a hinge. <br><br>I will optimize this over the weekend. An even more canted release angle will allow for a totally relaxed fist position, and even slightly enhance the draw length. <br><br><div style="margin:auto;text-align:center;width:100%">
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  2. Tobias

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    Jörg, this looks crazy <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_biggrin.png" alt="Very Happy" longdesc="1"> i like it.<br><br>why not a in hand solution in a tube?
     

  3. JoergS

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    Multiplex was just easier.
     
  4. Slingster

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    That looks like a nice design, and comfy too. Nice job!
     
  5. Bill Hays

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    Should be able to pull over 100 lbs. with that thing.
     
  6. general666

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    are ther any video's of it in action looks aweswome
     
  7. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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  8. CEZ

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    I am totally going to do this, my hand is sore from fist gripping. Also, I do think this release might improve accuracy, you not always grab your pouch the same way but the release minimizes this variable. Maybe with a little spring inside.
     
  9. Das

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    Joerg, I was trying to work out a pivoting release of a similar type, using a large half ball shaped grip, so that I could pull as much as the tennis ball slingshot. the idea of the pivot was to help with accuracy, so the release is always straight.<br>Also I was going to add a small laser that would always follow the direction of shot (as a sort of accuracy training aid) as I realised that might actually work.<br>As I have not had a lot of time recently, I got no further than paper sketches.<br><br>However i think that your idea is much simpler, may I borrow some of the design if I get back to working on my original idea
     
  10. jo_the_flow

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    Hello together. I'm new in this forum. I tried the butterflystyle for a few times but i had problems with the release. I tried several technics but none of them works constantly. I don't want to switch back to the normal style with a anker point at the mouth because butterflystyle is so powerful without strong bands. So i build such a wooden release as joerg shows in this picture. It worked very well for me. Had any one the same experience? Or any videos about it? Sorry for my bad english....I'm from germany and 35years old.
     
  11. bigdh2000

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    Perhaps you can try this option...

     
  12. jo_the_flow

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    Thanks. I watched this also but the hole pouch ripped on my cheek. That hurts terribly. I tried the style from Alvaro Garcia. This works better for me.
     
  13. bigdh2000

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    Ah, yes, a pouch "kiss". Feels like a snake bite.
     
  14. JimRhodo

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    In response to the “Hood” grip I had a trial before my iPad filled up.
    The Hood works well for big ammo but as I use my moorhammer for marbles I feel I have more control holding the ammo by the web of thumb and index finger.
    Thumb on top just extends the anchor distance but doesn’t really give full extension.
    After the camera gave up I continued to shoot and increasingly got full extension with my usual style but if I ever went up a few sizes I think it would be back to Hood.

    Apologies for the pun: butterfly is also an opera about an ill used Japanese lady.
     
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  15. bigdh2000

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    Like I tell everyone, know all the options and find what works best for you. We are all built differently with a wide range of strengths and weaknesses. Each must accommodate a different set of physical ability.
     
  16. jo_the_flow

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    That's right. I made a short gif of me that shows me shooting. Please tell me what you think about it.
     

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  17. jo_the_flow

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    Sorry, that didn't work with the video.... My smartphone make different format which i can't upload to this forum...
     
  18. jo_the_flow

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    Sorry, my video is mp4. I can't upload it.