Light ammo shoot in hard bands.

Discussion in 'General Slingshot Discussions' started by otta88sun, Dec 21, 2012.

  1. otta88sun

    otta88sun New Member

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    Hi,<br>if i build SS bands for 7g ball using joerg calc and than i shoot a 3,5g ball, does tha bands break faster?<br><br>I explain better, shoot a light ammo with hard ammo band, does it break faster?
     
  2. I shoot all sizes of ammo with my bands (though too large or too small and they don't fly so straight) and haven't noticed any extra wear from it. But I use tubes and they are semi-indestructable.
     

  3. von_z2

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    <div>I think you'll just be getting nasty handslap without any real increase in speed.</div><div class="clear"></div><div class="signature_div">
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  4. Yeah handslaps are an issue with lighter ammo and strong bands, personally I do not get handslaps (The "Three Pillars of Destruction" and I made and added a wrist support to doesn't give them at all no matter what I shoot) unless using one of my "Pop Shots" or my PFS.
     
  5. ABH

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    It may give nasty hand sllaps, and it will be worser to the bands life, the heavier the ammo is the better for the rubber (as lon it can be correctly launched) If bands go to fast in the re-pull proces,(when tha bands go back) the acceleration changes more violently and will certainly be bad for the life, if you want to shoot light ammo make bads lighter and pouch heavier (for having better bandlife). To get maximum speed (but less bandlife) use very light bands and amunition (but also dense), a very aerodinamic thin and light pouch and maximum tapering, band attachments that are innapropiately done my cut bands at long time effect
     
  6. ABH

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    I personally prefer to use full butterfly, heavy bands with heavy amunition as it has more destruction power,more inertia, power and good bandlife, you may know this, but tubing last much longer and if tapered can exceed 100 meters per second of velocity with apropiate ammo
     
  7. otta88sun

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    Sorry, how can u taper tubes?
     
  8. otta88sun

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    with wich ammo do u get 100mps? And full butterfly?
     
  9. tokSick

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    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="center">
    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>otta88sun wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">Sorry, how can u taper tubes?</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><a href="http://theslingshotforum.forumotion.com/t2404-pseudo-tapered-thera-tubes-chrony-tests?highlight=pseudo" class="postlink">HERE YOU GO!</a></span>
     
  10. otta88sun

    otta88sun New Member

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    good power... but id dont say if use full or half butterfly
     
  11. tokSick

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    I think Tobias <u>always</u> shoot full butterfly. I never saw him shooting another way than that. If you need to know about butterfly, power, speed, etc... he is the guy. Just watch his vidzz and you will know what i mean...
     
  12. Bill Hays

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    The thing to remember is... the faster the elastic travels, the faster it goes bad.<br><br>Shooting big and slow... the tubes/flats/solids will seem to last forever... shooting at over 250 fps with whatever kind of ammo... they won't last as long.<br><br>Now, that being said... there are some tricks to getting more life out of your bands. Wider forks with less impact trauma on the bands is the best way to extend band life. Next is super smooth, rounded or angled to deflect gently surfaces where the bands will impact when shooting. Then of course marginal improvements can be seen using talcum powder or aerospace lubricant.... there's a few more, but these will get you started.
     
  13. bushcraft kid

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    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>otta88sun wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">Sorry, how can u taper tubes?</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>You have to buy them as far as I know, trumark tapered tubes are possibly the best mass produced band set on the market, I have heard they are eqaul to untapered latex bands as far as performance. Just be warned they break rather quickly at the pouch but you can reattach the bands like when you make your own bands. <br><br>I have a set off tapered trumarks on a slingshot made form starboard (marine grade black plastic material) that I have shot almost daily for four months or so. The only thing I have had to repair was at the pouch I had to retie the bands twice.</span>
     
  14. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    you can taper them by looping them back and making a knot
     
  15. mhpr262

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    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>Bill Hays wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
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    <br>Now, that being said... there are some tricks to getting more life out of your bands. Wider forks with less impact trauma on the bands is the best way to extend band life. Next is super smooth, rounded or angled to deflect gently surfaces where the bands will impact when shooting. </td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br><br>Another thing I have noticed is that flatbands almost always tear near the pouch, where the wrapping starts (if you use the "wrap and tuck" rubberband method like gamekeeper john does).<br><br>I have started using much lighter, softer rubber for the wrapping (TheraBand Blue rubber strips for TB Silver or Gold bands) and I also try to wrap around the rubber strip two or three times with only very lttle tension on the fork side at first, so it does not do much for actually attaching the pouch but instead forms some kind of protective wrapping for the band rubber.</span>
     
  16. DaveSteve

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    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>mikehunt042084 wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">I shoot all sizes of ammo with my bands (though too large or too small and they don't fly so straight) and haven't noticed any extra wear from it. But I use tubes and they are semi-indestructable.</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"> <br><br>I have the same experience. My marbles just don't fly right with double TBG. <br><br>I did not see this with my looped 1745 what is normally to much for the marbles. ??<br><br>I'm still experimenting with different setups (ammo/rubber) to find my 'perfect' one. <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="Rolling Eyes" longdesc="14"></span>