Just received my "Raptor"!

Discussion in 'General Slingshot Discussions' started by JoergS, Apr 20, 2012.

  1. JoergS

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    I just picked up a parcel from customs... the guys at <a href="http://www.shoottech.com/" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.shoottech.com/</a> sent me a prototype of their upcoming "Raptor" compound slingshot.<br><br>Wow... just wow! <br><br>This is a well designed, perfectly machined cutting edge compound bow.... but it uses rubber as energy storage media, and it shoots steel balls (held by a rare earth magnet) as well as arrows! <br><br>This is brutally fast (haven't clocked it yet), and totally accurate (thanks to the professional 3D sights). <br><br>I believe this weapon takes slingshots to a new level. Can't wait for the weekend, for further tests!
     
  2. kooniu

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    The Raptor looks very interesting- I wait for tests!!
     

  3. zamarion

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    look forward to your video of this <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="2">
     
  4. sotiris

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    the idea of using a magnet as a pouch is really interesting, cant wait to see it in action.It looks badass, thats for sure.
     
  5. sotiris

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    The design looks pretty straight-forward and simple too, im just wandering what those little tubes can do
     
  6. Antraxx

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    Hmmm, unsure...for me it just combines the weakness of a slingshot with the weakness of a compoundbow.<br><br>No offense...just saying what are my first thoughts...havent seen or shot it of course!<br>Really looking forward to your Vid.<br><br>but a Compound bow is, compared to a Slingshot like the Moorehammer for example...way to bulky to carry it around in your pocket.<br><br>On the other hand a compound bow is way stronger than a rubber based slingshot. It uses GFK Arms that store all the power needed to fire an arrow with deadly speed. Those arms do not depend (i think the also do, but compared to rubber nearly zero i bet) on temperature and won´t get any weaker when you use them again and again.<br><br><br>So why shouldn´t i just attach a magnet-pouch to a compound bow instead?<br><br>If i go the huge and bulky way, why add the "weakness" of a slingshot?<br><br><br>The only good thing i see so far is (and i don´t even know it it really works) the drawweightreduction when i reach the maximum draw...thats the big advantage of a coumpound bow compared to a normal bow (and the size), but again...you would have had the same effect with a standard compound bow.<br>Al you have to do is adjust arms/handle or just use balls with the same weight as an arrow.<br><br><br>I´m also a little bit afraid of that earth-magnet....what if you do not pull hard enough to release it? Might it not come back straight into your face?
     
  7. sotiris

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    if it didnt release the ball forward then it wouldnt release it back on you.The magnet should be only powerful enough to hold the ball in place and to prevent it from falling due to wigling the whole thing.But again, this is only speculation, we must wait and see what Joerg thinks of it..Im sure though, that with this kind of power, the ball would release even at half draw.
     
  8. JoergS

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    Antraxx, there are several advantages of using rubber (I asked the supplier, of course). <br><br>The reasons are very obvious. <br><br>First, a (small) steel ball weighs much less than an arrow. If you take a string compound bow and fire a 9,5mm steel ball from it, that will be like dry firing it, breaking the bow. Using rubber = no such problem.<br><br>Second, vibration. The rubber vibrates far less than any other material, it is a damper in itself. This makes the bow much more accurate than a "conventional" one. Shoottech says it becomes obvious in slomo. <br><br>Third, the power can easily be varied by attaching more band sets. The power can be 40, 60 or 80 lb easily (mine is 80). The user can add/remove the bands easily by himself. <br><br>So far, I can confirm these findings.<br><br>Compared to a normal slingshot, I can assure you that the speed of a small steel ball is amazing, certainly the fastest I have ever seen. Certainly above 400 fps. The thick tubular rubber will last a loooong time. A regular slingshot THAT fast, five shots maximum.<br><br>Also, this allows perfect aiming. The let off means that in drawn condition, the draw weight is low, and you can sight through the peep and the 3D sights easily. <br><br>The only drawback really is the bulk. But it is not huge, for a bow.
     
  9. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    looking forward to the tests
     
  10. Antraxx

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    Hey, thanks for pointing that out.<br><br>Sounds very good to me.<br><br>The rubber-parts look very small on their homepage, i think the rubber is attached to the arms and the "string" is a regular one with no flexibility.<br><br>Hmmm...i´m already thinking about a pocketable slingshot with movable rubberbased arms and a standard string-sling <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="2"><br><br>I think you build something similar already. the arms twisted a little bit and it shout through the middle...dunno which one it was.
     
  11. sotiris

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  12. Antraxx

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    hm no a hand held one. with 2 horizontal, movable arm parts. i think it was for longer drawlength.<br><br>it is one of the older vids afair... at his garden with pool.
     
  13. JoergS

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    Yes, my hand held ballista works with levers. But of course no let off (there aren't any cams).<br><br><embed pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" src="http://www.youtube.com/v/qbNdk4_aIok" width="425" height="350" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" quality="high" scale="exactfit"></embed>
     
  14. Antraxx

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    y, thats it. had it wrong in my mind..."ballista" reminded me too much of a cross bow.
     
  15. Ryan Wigglesworth

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    <img src="http://www.shoottech.com/images/raptorB01.jpg" border="0" alt="">
     
  16. e_monster55

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    The Raptor . . . <br>I. Must. HAVE!!!<br>I want this as my bow now, I want it I want it I want itIwantitIwantit <br>WOrds . . . too inadequate . . .<br>should have sent a poet.
     
  17. Earth 2

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    And what about the price?? A billion &euro;? <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_biggrin.png" alt="Very Happy" longdesc="1">
     
  18. JoergS

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    They haven't decided on the price, AFAIK.
     
  19. RobertP

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    I'd expect it to be around $400-600, but would prefer a price more like $200-300. I have looked and looked I can't find a price on these anywhere. This is the first I have heard and seen them, pretty awesome design. I expect to see a video soon Joerg, I would love to really see this thing put through the paces.