Saderath needed rubber, and I have sent him some. In retribution he sent me some amazing shooters! I cannot tell the woods used (maybe you can, Nicholas?) The bigger one is very confortable to hold, amazingly finished, just like varnish! (but smells like lineseed oil) and between the frame and palmswell there is a master's touch of finesse. 2 thin layers of different woods, one pale, other red. Unbelievevable. The second smaller one is a PFS, of course, with a groovy grain wood......could it be olive? acacia?? I cannot tell. I hired a new model to pose with the shooters, becase Patela was busy bullying my mother's dog. Enjoy!