explosive ammo

Discussion in 'General Slingshot Discussions' started by zamarion, Mar 24, 2012.

  1. zamarion

    zamarion New Member

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    i was just wondering how i could improve slingshot ammo and i thought by myself ... what if you had a bullet that would explode on impact ...im currently working on it let me know what you guys think
     
  2. sotiris

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    i used to make explosive airgun pellets.I just took the powder from those red plastic things you use in toy guns to make the shot sound.When i had about a teaspoon of the stuff, i added some pure alcohol, mixed it into a paste and then put a small drop on some hollow point pellets.They exploded on impact giving a great effect, especially during the night
     

  3. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12HQXC6b0go" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12HQXC6b0go</a> they are really fun but dont ad power
     
  4. zamarion

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    yeah the caps worked in the past as a good impact ignition but they dont have powder anymore ...in the caps are now little papers and they dont work well <br>for explosive power i use rocket fuel powder and black powder mixed .. (black powder for the power and rocket fuel is waaaay easier to ignite)now i just need a good ignition
     
  5. sotiris

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    you could try phosphorus.Its used at the tips of tracer rounds
     
  6. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    i tried it with modern caps an they worked fine with my(i used the ones that are on a paper<img src="http://www.google.nl/imgres?um=1&hl=nl&sa=X&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&tbnid=rNAFjSLBcqr4NM:&imgrefurl=http://www.geheugenvanwest.nl/page/15940/nl&docid=6tm8lJkgt-95gM&imgurl=http://fast.mediamatic.nl/f/lvrq/image/481/15940-620-414.jpg&w=620&h=414&ei=IS9uT8erNMSf8gOLiJy_DQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=192&vpy=321&dur=986&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=185&ty=67&sig=104993323779899527945&page=1&tbnh=143&tbnw=219&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:6,s:0" border="0" alt="">)<br>where do you get rocket fuel and black powder
     
  7. zamarion

    zamarion New Member

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    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="center">
    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>sotiris wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">you could try phosphorus.Its used at the tips of tracer rounds</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br>hmm yes ofcourse... the burning point of fosfor is only 32 degrees celcius wich means if touched by your hands it will ignite... and i bet that on impact there will be more then 32 C of temperature but how do i get fosfor and how can i savely fire it</span>
     
  8. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    cover it with clay, you will get a nice safe ball
     
  9. zamarion

    zamarion New Member

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    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="center">
    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>onnod wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">i tried it with modern caps an they worked fine with my(i used the ones that are on a paper<img src="http://www.google.nl/imgres?um=1&hl=nl&sa=X&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&tbnid=rNAFjSLBcqr4NM:&imgrefurl=http://www.geheugenvanwest.nl/page/15940/nl&docid=6tm8lJkgt-95gM&imgurl=http://fast.mediamatic.nl/f/lvrq/image/481/15940-620-414.jpg&w=620&h=414&ei=IS9uT8erNMSf8gOLiJy_DQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=192&vpy=321&dur=986&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=185&ty=67&sig=104993323779899527945&page=1&tbnh=143&tbnw=219&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:6,s:0" border="0" alt="">)<br>where do you get rocket fuel and black powder</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br>at newyears i got a whole stock of fireworks and just took out the powders from different components<br><br>now i got a hell load of rocket fuel and black powder</span>
     
  10. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    damn i should have saved some
     
  11. zamarion

    zamarion New Member

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    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="center">
    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>onnod wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">cover it with clay, you will get a nice safe ball</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br>yes ofcourse <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="2"> and i still have 2 chunks of brown clay laying around but.. clay is wet .. would that not cancel out the fosfor then?</span>
     
  12. sotiris

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    you can use a thin coat of wax
     
  13. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    i used it to cover my ammo but that was covered with alufoil first maybe you could try that
     
  14. zamarion

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    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="center">
    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>sotiris wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">you can use a thin coat of wax</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br>on the inside of the clay? <br>and also if i use aluminum foil my hand warmth will still reach the fosfor and set it on fire</span>
     
  15. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    that true<br>just put your hand in the fridge first <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_biggrin.png" alt="Very Happy" longdesc="1">
     
  16. sotiris

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    you can mix some gunpowder with alcohol, make it into a clay like paste, form little balls out of it and cover them with wax, and then with clay.This will keep the powder dry and still give you a hard enough ball to shoot.i think this will ignite on impact, but you can be sure unless you try it
     
  17. zamarion

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    yeah but i cant put my hand in the fridge everytime i wanna shoot:p i have to have a save way of carrying it with in a bag or something so i think clay is great because ill just put aluminum foil in the clay that way no heat reaches the fosfor and it doesnt get wet from the clay but... problem number 2 is how do i get fosfor
     
  18. sotiris

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    it is expensive, hard to find and highly unstable.I think , simply mixing some sand with the gunpowder and doind what i told you before would create enough friction on impact to set off the powder
     
  19. zamarion

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    <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="center">
    <tr><td><span class="genmed"><b>sotiris wrote:</b></span></td></tr>
    <tr><td class="quote">it is expensive, hard to find and highly unstable.I think , simply mixing some sand with the gunpowder and doind what i told you before would create enough friction on impact to set off the powder</td></tr>
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    <span class="postbody"><br>hmmm what kind of wax? lik candle wax? so just melt a candle and dip the bullets in it? and does it have to be pure alcohol or can 40 % be okay</span>
     
  20. sotiris

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    pure alcohol only, and you should try to avoid getting any moisture in the mix.Remember, gunpowder needs to be completely dry to ignite.You could use any kind of wax, most candles are made of parafin which will work great.melt it in a small bowl and deep them in.Then take them out, and roll them into balls.