Any documentation of a murder by slingshot?

Discussion in 'Laws and Regulations' started by coyote-1, Dec 31, 2013.

  1. coyote-1

    coyote-1 Member

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    Anyone? Anywhere?

    I just find myself wondering why so many states - and nations - have laws against wrist-braced slingshots, and even against all slingshots. I mean certainly there must have been vast numbers of people killed with these devices in order for law enforcement agencies and legislatures to restrict or prohibit ownership, right??

    Oddly enough, I can't find examples of such murders. Or even assaults using these devices. But there must be examples aplenty....
     
  2. Where I live blowguns are illegal, not do to murders but fear of harming endangered waterfowl. Though the danger to a duck from a blowgun is no more than that of a rock, the same argument can be made for most slingshots. As slingshots are okay where I am at I do not understand any of these laws really. I can legally carry an 18 inch bowie knife or my glock but what most would consider children's toys are illegal? Makes about as much sense as tits on a boar....
     

  3. NyamNyam

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  4. http://www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/battles/rebels-use-slingshot-in-firefight/1862741464001/


    Just because a few people do dumb stuff shouldn't ban an item. People will always find a way to make something destructive, it is human nature after all. For example really think about something you consider "harmless".... Now how long did it take you to then make a weapon out of it? 6 seconds? Might as well make sticks and stones against the law, BURN THEM ALL!, how many have been hurt by them?
     
  5. VWscooby

    VWscooby Senior Member

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    Well, they may break my bones but names will never hurt me!
     
  6. I don't know, there are some Charter customer support people that would beg to differ lol.
     
  7. Withak

    Withak aka Whitehawk!

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    It's hard to nail down the origins of some laws. Sure, some may have been written because there were incidents where harm was caused to someone, or, as Mike points out, harm to animals. Honestly, I believe at least some of the laws that ban a variety of items such as blow guns, slingshots, knives and guns originate out of either fear or control. Fear is often motivated by a lack of education or knowledge of an item. I see politicians often speak about things like guns and it's clear they have no clue what they're talking about - only parroting talking points they are given by others. Yet these very people are responsible for writing the laws. Common sense goes out the window under the guise of 'protecting' others, which leads us into control. Take away the ability of people to not only defend themselves, but also to stand up to their government and you've let the wolf in the door. When a people can't stand up to their government, then the government is left in a much better position to take advantage of their power. So whether it be slingshots, crossbows, blowguns, rifles, shotguns or pistols, I suspect few of those laws were written because one of those particular items was improperly used by a small number of people. I think there is something more behind it. Unfortunately, reason is the least likely possibility in my mind.

    And to every politician or constituent that believes bans on these items will make us safer would be wise to recall the words of Benjamin Franklin:

    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
     
  8. The only point I disagree with is the part about self defense and standing up to your government, there is no way on earth to disarm an educated person. I can make explosives from grave dirt and a trip to my local disgusting and outdated mine, not to mention the boundless bow and arrow/slingshot making material in everyone's general area. Humans have gone FAR too long as a weapon using being to ever truly be unable to find/make one in a pinch.
     
  9. WildBill

    WildBill The Silly Song Guy

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    -Wild Bill
     

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  10. Achso_42

    Achso_42 Senior Member

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    @Nyam: The RAF used slingshots with wristbraces and probably killed police officers(they were killed by steelballs not fired from a gun and slingshots were found.)

    It's not proven that these officers were shot with slingshots.
     
  11. BeMahoney

    BeMahoney Builder of things

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    I killed!

    Mr. D.Press I.on!
    That bloody son of a beach!

    It took:
    -Some plywood
    -some sanding paper

    That sucker!

    Be
     
  12. Obl1v1Aus

    Obl1v1Aus Meh!

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    No one will hold you accountable for that Be, he had it coming to him! :D
     
  13. Withak

    Withak aka Whitehawk!

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    I agree with you in part - but if you were in a position where you would have to stand up to your government, improvised weapons may work, but having access to weapons of at least somewhat equivalent firepower as your government makes it more likely you would succeed - and that's kind of how I view the 2nd amendment. I'm not expecting to ever have to go up against my government, but I want them to know that should they cross the line, there are plenty of us out here who may wish to make our voices more strongly known - with force if it were ever to become necessary. When government forgets that they work for us, not the other way around, it is up to us to make sure they are reminded of this fact.
     
  14. WildBill

    WildBill The Silly Song Guy

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    The specific purpose, as proported by the designers of the US constitution, for the 2nd amendment was thus- to ensure that the populace is armed and thus a deterrent against tyrannical government. The idea of a single person with knowledge to make crude weapons taking on a government is, as it's base, ludicrous. such persons are but tiny pockets that are easily wiped out with a single missile or even smaller. But an entire people that are armed- and know how to use said arms- are the bane of any government seeking to subjugate it's citizenry. The velvet iron glove wants to wean it's people off of weapons through 'trust'. To wit- the Patriot Act. Us citizens are not qualified to protect ourselves- nor can we be trusted, so the government must restrict our movements, weapons, and freedoms for our 'benefit'. This is an old, tried-and-true method of all socialist governments to subjugate their constituents. Lie to them enough that they actually believe that their government is better at protecting them than themselves and you will win. However, this is a process. First, you must feminize your population. Bombard them with the idea that being manly makes you backward, stupid and brutish. Next, teach them that passivity makes you a social superior. Then, promote perversion in society (homosexuality, abortion, etc) to make the idea of self-destruction and social De-construction reasonable. Once these have been accomplished within the majority, use the media to banish to the fringes anyone that refuses to conform. Finally, you wipe out the fringes with an internal police force and, presto! a people ready for whatever slaughter you put them into. No, I didn't come up with this principle, Marx and Engels did- and Stalin (not Lenin) put it into practice. If you don't believe me, read the Communist Manifesto yourself and see what's really in it- then look at the historical record of the USSR from 1924-1952. You'll be very hard pressed to deny a word I've said.

    -Wild Bill
     
  15. Withak

    Withak aka Whitehawk!

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    Well said Bill.
     
  16. I spent several years training and training others to "rebel". I'm actually surprised this forum isn't blocked in the US, this is for sure in the realm of "Gorilla Warfare" as the united states sees it, I doubt my children will be allowed to shoot a bow without getting criminal charges before they have kids of their own. :(
     
  17. New_dog_old_tricks

    New_dog_old_tricks Natural born can killer

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    Any person that is willing to sacrifice there freedom for security deserves neither freedom nor security. I think Washington said that.
     
  18. BeMahoney

    BeMahoney Builder of things

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    Believe it or not..

    I heard about a Lady that died from suffocation.
    Caused by a Rambone.. It turned out to be murder
    in the first degree!
    The guy that did that admitted he “had to“ do so
    because of her laughter and making fun of him
    - she said that his Rambone, despite it's size, was
    was ridiculously crude and unelegant..

    He said that she said that there's an awful lot
    of people out there that could do a better with
    their bare hands..

    If I recall that right, they both worked in the
    lithuainian movie industry..

    Sad story..

    Greetings,

    Be
     
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  19. seppman

    seppman Folding-Ladder Expert

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    New_dog_old_tricks beat you on reviving it. Or is that you? :p
     
  20. dolomite

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    There was recently a killing with a slingshot in my town, a young bottle cap lost its life to a violent pounding at the hands of this criminal...
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    And the getaway driver was this fellow.
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