lead poisoning???

Discussion in 'General Slingshot Discussions' started by onnod, Apr 1, 2012.

  1. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    hey guys,<br>i was thinking to try to cast some lead ammo and i have everything ready but there is one thing:<br>my mom(i'm 13 so...) thinks you can get poisoned by the smoke that comes of and since i don't want to get poisoned i want to make sure i cant.<br><br>so can i get poisoned and if so, do i have to wear a mask or something????<br><br>grtz onno
     
  2. Ryan Wigglesworth

    Ryan Wigglesworth Senior Member

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    Yeah... Doing this outdoors should be enough ventilation, but you do not want to be hanging over top of it and breathing it in if it can be avoided.<br><br>Until you are under your own care, that call will be your guardians though... Perhaps do some research on the issue and show her you know the risks and have taken the proper precautions?
     

  3. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    thanks ryan<br><br>I've searched some more myself and everybody says that i have to do it outside(the plan was to do that so) and then i will be alright.<br>so lets try to cast some ammo!!!
     
  4. Ryan Wigglesworth

    Ryan Wigglesworth Senior Member

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    Good luck man! It's good to figure out now how to work within your established boundaries... When you are an adult the only that that changes are the consequences get worse :s
     
  5. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    thanks again ryan but sadly enough she wont let me try it anyway <img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" longdesc="3"><img src="http://illiweb.com/fa/i/smiles/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" longdesc="3">
     
  6. Wargasm

    Wargasm New Member

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    People who reload bullets and cast musket balls usually do so on a large scale, hundreds at a time, this makes it more worthwile. Having a well ventilated area will keep the harmful vapors away. There are also groups involved in miniatures casting, whether for fantasy role playing/tactial board games or simply for collecting, they also cast in lead, Ventilation is the key, doing it outside would be best, but then it's harder to control temperatures, a well ventilated are would be sufficient for casting slingshot ammo at the hobby level.
     
  7. Karok01

    Karok01 New Member

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    You can melt lead on a bunson burner in a soup pot, it has a very low melting temp. This makes it easier to set up a small outdoor molding station. If you ar outdoors, i wouldn't worry too much about fumes. I will say, search for "making slingshot ammo" on youtube and follow your sidebar, and of course, please don't do any of this without adult supervision. (hate to be that guy, but lead tends to solidify fast when poured on another surface "like you're hand", just be careful.
     
  8. pelleteer

    pelleteer Middle Aged Delinquent

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    Lead toxicity is one of those things that's gotten overdone these days to the point of being ridiculous. Yes, it is toxic in large amounts and over many years, but a few basic precautions essentially eliminate the risks. As has been said, when casting lead, try to do so outdoors or in a well ventilated indoor area (set a fan up in an open window and have it blowing toward the outdoors and do your casting on a table set up close to the fan). After handling lead, wash your hands with soap and water. Do those things and you'll be fine. No worries. <br><br>Of course, your parent gets the final say, but along the lines of what Karok was saying, you might try having her read some stuff online about lead casting. That might ease her mind a bit. <br><br>Best of luck.
     
  9. The Mikester

    The Mikester New Member

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    yes you could get lead poisoning if u evaporate the lead or lick your hands while working with it but if you melt it outside you will be fine
     
  10. Mambarino

    Mambarino Plink!

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    This is an old thread, but it's an important topic so I'll bump it.

    I have to disagree with the statement above. Quite apart from the effects on humans of using, handling and smelting lead, there is also the effect on wildlife when you leave lead ammo lying around outdoors.

    This is a very topical issue at the moment, with states in the US moving to ban the use of lead in ammunition. For instance, California has prohibited the use of lead hunting ammunition, with a phase-out date of July 2019 (more info here).

    I am a fan of steel ball bearings (which simply rust away if left in the wilderness) or clay ammo (cheap!)

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  11. Haze

    Haze New Member

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    I did some lead melting in primary school. I don't think 13 is too young, if you read about it and work out exactly how you're going to do the whole thing from beginning to end so everything you need is in the right place to just pick up and use when you need it. One other thing - if you give it a go just make sure you're by yourself - no little brothers or sisters floating around and no friends either. Then you can concentrate on what you're doing and minimise the risk.
     
  12. Knallfrosch

    Knallfrosch Senior Member

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    Clay ammo is definitely a thing to look at in the future. They are not ideal for long ranges or high kinetic energies but for fun shooting the best environmental-friendly choice :)

    Form my work i can say that german police forces are switching to lead-free ammunition because of the inherit health problems.

    But there is no need to over react. Occasionally melting lead for a batch of leadballs will not kill you. The dose makes the poison. A good ventilated workplace is recommended and do not sniff the metal fumes from the oven. Then you should be ok.
     
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  13. Haze

    Haze New Member

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    Yes - I have read that being hit by a lead bullet causes severe health issues..........
     
  14. Jeb

    Jeb Baba Hunter

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    Love clay ammo. But I'd go rat-cracker crazy rolling them by hand like that. Right now I order them off the net. Some day I want to get myself a bollie roller and DIY them properly.

    Clay is great if you're in a spot with a lot of rocks and ricochet is a serious danger. Clay just explodes on rock-impact. Used it a lot on my recent island camping trip:

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    And it still packs a pretty good punch against those dastardly alu-can invaders:

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    There's another thread kicking around somewhere about lead in the environment... can't find it though. In Canada they banned lead shot a long time ago, but only for wetland hunting where the environmental impact is much larger.
     
  15. Mambarino

    Mambarino Plink!

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    Jeb, after reading your response, I know I am at the right forum. :)

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  16. bigdh2000

    bigdh2000 Administrator

    Well, lead is used to join copper piping that carries drinking water and every human body requires a little amount of lead to survive. Prolonged exposure to high doses is where the problem starts to creep in.

    What you have to be careful with when using any chemical that gives off a vapor is proper ventilation. I have melted lead in years past and live to tell the story. If it was so dangerous than all the people soldering indoors would be dead by now.

    Now, leaving it around in the environment is not such a good thing. The lead content can get very high in places where hunting frequently occurs. This is definitely not a good thing.

    Another thing to remember, lead ammo leaves terrible residue in your firearm. Clean a gun after shooting lead is a chore! When you clean it after using alloy bullets, it is more of a wipe down than a chore.
     
  17. Mambarino

    Mambarino Plink!

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    I checked that and I cannot confirm. Indeed, the opposite seems to be true.

    Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2898032/ (and many other sources available)
     
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  18. JimRhodo

    JimRhodo Junior Member

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    I would concur: a high dose over such a short period having terminal consequences is indeed a well documented fact.
     
  19. onnod

    onnod Im from Holland, isnt that weird?

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    I almost forgot I made this thread :eek: I still haven't done any lead casting yet, but I'm enjoying my steel balls and occasional clay balls :)
     
  20. Knallfrosch

    Knallfrosch Senior Member

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    Did anyone try salt dough? I remember, when i was little, we used it at the kindergarten and it was pretty hard after drying.