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Old 01-20-2014, 08:25 AM   #1
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Hello guys!

I'm thinking about buying an air pistol, and I can't choose between these two models:

Crosman Vigilante Revolver:
http://www.funstuff.se/produkt/Crosman-Revolver-Vigilante

Luger P08:
http://www.funstuff.se/produkt/Legends-P08

Both are pretty cool... They shoot at about the same speed, but the Luger has a magazine capacity of 21 steel BB's while the Revolver has room for 10 diabolo-bullets (which I already have a lot of for my Hatsan Striker X airrifle). The Luger is completely made of metal. The revolver features "single action", which apparently means you can cock the hammer in order to get a smoother, lighter trigger pull.

Which one should I choose?


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Old 01-20-2014, 08:33 AM   #2
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Is the Pistol for targetshooting? Or are you going to hunt? The Impact of Steel-BB's can be higher, but Diabolo-pellets are more accurate.
Single Action is better for Targetshooting. More Fun at Cans gives you the Double-Action.

I would buy a " Vorkompressions-Luftpistole Zoraki HP-01 Kaliber 4,5 mm" or a

"HW 40 Sport Weihrauch Luftpistole Kal. 4,5"



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Just out of interest what are the laws on air rifles and pistols in Sweden? They are quite restrictive in the UK. Why a pistol instead of a rifle? Just wondering because Im nosey
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Target-shooting only. I see, thank you! I use Diabolo-pellets for my air rifle, and it is very accurate.
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The daisy red rider BB gun like Ralphy from a ChristmasStory...don't shoot your eye out.
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VWScooby: In Sweden you can own airguns with a maximum of ten joules of energy. Semi- or fully automatic weapons are restricted to three joules. You have to be 18+ in order to shoot them on your own. If your under that age you have to have a parent or other 18+ person supervising. You can shoot them in your backyard, no problem And I have an airrifle already, an a pistol would be cool too!

Dolo: Looks cool! But only shoots half as fast as my other air rifle
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Wow, thats more restrictive than the UK!

The Luger looks awesome but I would probably go for the Crosman just for accuracy really if I was in your shoes.

EDIT: Sorry, dont know why I wrote Netherlands when you are in Sweden!
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Just looking at it i'd buy the crossman haha but i don't know anything about airguns

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If you want to play Police Officer then you buy the Crosman, if you want to play James Bond then of course the P.08.

Ok a little serious now:

The P.08.

benefits:
21 Round Stick Magazine shots 4,5 mm Steel BB´s. (a lot of fun for Plinking)
A lot of steel about 800 gram
About 430 fps for this kind hard hitter…
About 6 magazines from one CO2 bottle

cons:
Non adjustable sights - nothing for Target shooting.
21 Round Stick Magazine shots 4,5 mm Steel BB´s - nothing for Target shooting.
Only double action
Hard trigger - nothing for Target shooting.
further costs due to CO2 cartridges

The Crosman
benefits:
one pellet magazine 6 shot and one BB magazine, but both are quit poor, the BB magazine is very poor, because they won’t stay in place…
A lot of rails to mount useless things like Laser ore sights.
Double and single action
With the pellets more accurate than the P.08

cons:
I don’t like break barrel on a pistol
A very big gun, some like this, but I don’t like this on this kind of fun shooter
About 360 fps loses too much pressure due to the construction
further costs due to CO2 cartridges


For fun shooting and plinking I use my Weihrauch HW45 (single shot) 5,5 mm and for Target I use my Feinwerkbau LP 65 and my Feinwerkbau LP100 both are old professional air guns, very reliable without additional cost. Both are no longer built, only used available, but very reliable, on the Internet you can get spare parts for both of them.
I know, the acquisition costs are higher than the Luger or the Crosman, but those are serious air guns for target shooting in a non professional way at the present time. Sometimes you get a good deal on the internet

I know, this is not the answer you want to hear, but if I had to choose between those two, I would buy the P08, because bother are only fun shooters and I like the look of the Luger.
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If it was me I would not buy either, but then I'm not fond of C02.
To me CO2 is just a way the guns manufacture figured to get more money out of their customers.

If you want to seriously shoot Pistol then think serious, like this. http://www.crosman.com/airguns/pistols/PC77B

If your buying it just to have it hang on the wall and look good, then feel free to ignore me.


I currently have several BB guns, all spring action, for cheap, indoor wintertime shooting. (Keeps my hands and eyes in practice. They are not terribly accurate, but they are good enough. I have 1 bb gun rifle, spring action, IT is accurate.

I have also owned a Sheridan Blue streak rifle in 5MM for near 40 years.
This is one sweet shooting, rugged, dependable air rifle. It will knock the socks off any BB gun in power, penetration, accuracy. Only downside is the ammo has slowly over the years gotten to where it is not cheap. And it is harder to find except via internet sales. It has adjustable power by means of a forarm pump. 2 pumps will kill a sparrow at 10m, 3 works fine for starlings on a overhead wire at 15- 25 m. 4 pumps will cleanly kill a rabbit out to 50 meters.

So you have to ask yourself what you want, and why you want it.

Image = nothing, "cool" = nothing.

A rifle that will go out and kill game to feed you or the family, quietly, without need for CO2 cylinders that might run dry. Or that will keep varmints out of your food supply. Now in the long haul, that is worth something.


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